Older Horses - 2017

PJMIII
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:07 am

Gettysburg (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: December 4, 2017
Track: FAIR GROUNDS
Distance: Six Furlongs
Time: 1.12:40 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 2/2
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Flanders
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Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:28 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Are these the only two choices available for this horse?
1) Stand at stud in Qatar, where he only draws a few mares, or
2) Return to racing, even though both an old injury and the long layoff could suggest that this might not go swimmingly?
Is he not wanted at any other stud farm? Or is Thewayyouare just not very fashionable at the sales ATM? :?
He was a nice racehorse, so I wish him well.
Thewayyouare was relocated for the 2017 season. I would assume he isn't fashionable at all, he has a pretty poor record at stud.
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:38 pm

Collected (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: December 8, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.03:80 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 34/38

Hoppertunity (6-Year-Old Horse)
Date: December 8, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 48:40 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 6/36
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:33 pm

I've always liked this speedball, but watching him work (particularly his tail carriage), I have to wonder about how happy this horse is in his back. . .

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/masoc ... -9th-2017/
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Sparrow Castle
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:05 pm

katmandu wrote:I've always liked this speedball, but watching him work (particularly his tail carriage), I have to wonder about how happy this horse is in his back. . .

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/masoc ... -9th-2017/
I always thought Masochistic's tail carriage is channeling his Arabian forebearers. One of things about him I think is endearing. I hope his issues resolve and he makes a successful comeback.

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Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:46 am

Collected (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: December 13, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Six Furlongs
Time: 1.13:20 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 2/4
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Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:46 pm

Hoppertunity (6-Year-Old Horse)
Date: December 14, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.00:60 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 3/62

Cat Burglar (7-Year-Old Horse)
Date: December 14, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Six Furlongs
Time: 1.13:40 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 2/20

Masochistic (7-Year-Old Gelding)
Date: December 14, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.00:60 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 3/62
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:43 am

Saltini (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: December 15, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.02:40 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 4/7
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Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:12 pm

Southside Warrior (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: December 18, 2017
Track: FAIR HILL
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.00:00 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: All Weather Training
Rank: 1/8


Bird of Trey (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: December 18, 2017
Track: LAUREL PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.02:00 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 1/8
PJMIII
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Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:16 pm

Collected (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: December 19, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Seven Furlongs
Time: 1.25:60 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 1/1
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Sparrow Castle
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:11 am

Bloodlines: A Cowboy And His Students
The victory of Fear the Cowboy (by Cowboy Cal) in the Dec. 16 Harlan's Holiday Stakes at Gulfstream Park poked holes in the aspirations of some horses looking at next month's $12 million Pegasus World Cup.

But the 5-year-old's victory brought cheers from fans and partisans as far apart as Kentucky and South Korea.

Fear the Cowboy was bred in Kentucky by the University of Kentucky, raised at UK's Maine Chance Farm on Newtown Pike north of Lexington, and then sold at Fasig-Tipton's Kentucky winter mixed sale across the road from Maine Chance in February 2013 when Fear the Cowboy was a short yearling.

The leggy bay didn't bring much, selling for $1,500 to Alexandro Centofanti.

Laurie Lawrence, professor of animal and food sciences at UK, noted that “unlike most of the other farms, our horses aren't the principal product. Instead, the primary focus and end goal are our students. Each semester, we employ eight to 10 students to work on the farm. They handle the mares, clean the stalls, fix the fences, go on breeding shed runs, and do foal watch.”

Those skills are an important part of UK's contribution to educating these young people, Lawrence said, because “few of the students come from a Thoroughbred background, and it's a good introduction to Thoroughbreds.” The Maine Chance operation raises 15-20 yearlings annually and sells them at Fasig-Tipton “because it's right across the road, and the shorter sales fit into the students' schedules more easily,” Lawrence said.

The education for and introduction of young people to the Thoroughbred business is one reason the farms and owners in the region support UK, its Maine Chance Farm, and the overall equine program so enthusiastically.

In the case of the Harlan's Holiday winner, both the dam and the season to the sire were donated to the program.
More: https://www.paulickreport.com/features/ ... -students/
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:47 pm

Calculator (5-Year-Old Horse)
Date: December 20, 2017
Track: DEL MAR
Distance: Six Furlongs
Time: 1.11:80 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 1/2
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:58 pm

Cat Burglar (7-Year-Old Horse)
Date: December 20, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.00:20 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 8/71

Masochistic (7-Year-Old Gelding)
Date: December 20, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 58:40 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 1/71

Hoppertunity (6-Year-Old Horse)
Date: December 20, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 47:80 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 1/35
BaroqueAgain1
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Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:55 am

What would Baffert do without Cat Burgler? :lol: He's been the work mate for so many of Bob's top horses, and he's good enough to make them work. I'd love to see him get some more wins of his own, and then find a comfy little farm to stand at on retirement.
He's a good-looking stakes winner with a nice pedigree (Unbridled's Song out of a Forest Wildcat mare), apparently a decent temperament and he's clearly sound.
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Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:25 am

Agree about Cat Burglar and it's surprising he's still in training, with his pedigree. Is Hoppy pointed to the San Antonio, which has been moved to opening day--I assume to make it a Pegasus prep?
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Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:30 pm

Diver52 wrote:Agree about Cat Burglar and it's surprising he's still in training, with his pedigree. Is Hoppy pointed to the San Antonio, which has been moved to opening day--I assume to make it a Pegasus prep?
Yep.

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Tuesday's San Antonio (G2) field, from rail:

Hoppertunity
Top of the Game
Giant Expectations
Prime Attraction
Accelerate
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BaroqueAgain1
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Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:34 pm

Collected could be the horse that gives Gun Runner a run for the Pegasus money. He's a fast horse who may be improving, and I like the fact that he's getting Mike Smith as a jockey.
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Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:46 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Collected could be the horse that gives Gun Runner a run for the Pegasus money. He's a fast horse who may be improving, and I like the fact that he's getting Mike Smith as a jockey.
And he's no Del Mar specialist. I believe he's 4-for-4 at Santa Anita.
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Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:58 pm

Cat Burglar (7-Year-Old Horse)
Date: December 26, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 47:60 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 5/33

Masochistic (7-Year-Old Gelding)
Date: December 26, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 47:40 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 4/33
BaroqueAgain1
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Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:35 pm

Collected was third in the San Antonio. :? Was this an OK prep for the Pegasus, or does this give Bob some concerns about whether the colt has taken a step back?
Giant Expectations won...thanks to a savvy ride by Gary Stevens, who saw that the pace was s-l-o-w, and said, you guys don't want the lead? OK, I'll take it, thank you very much...and went off to win. :lol:
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