"Bubble" and "Watch" horse thread

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Cacau is only a 5-year-old Unbridled's Song gelding, but I think he's one to throw on a 'watch' thread. He is entered at Emerald Downs for $7500 on Friday.

He last raced November 2014, ran 10th and last (eased) for $14,000 at Del Mar. He then spent some time on the Vets List in California as "unsound" in December. This is his first race back. New connections.
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Fri May 08, 2015 8:41 am

Izvestia wrote:Cacau is only a 5-year-old Unbridled's Song gelding, but I think he's one to throw on a 'watch' thread. He is entered at Emerald Downs for $7500 on Friday.

He last raced November 2014, ran 10th and last (eased) for $14,000 at Del Mar. He then spent some time on the Vets List in California as "unsound" in December. This is his first race back. New connections.
Just saw that one- and here is another one- Carnivore who was on the Derby trail at one point- is in a $2,500 claimer today at Emerald. Former Pletcher horse- sold for $280k at OBS.
Giant's Causeway x Biogio's Rose
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Fri May 08, 2015 10:30 am

Carnivore! Looking at his career, it's basically been downhill since the spring of his sophomore year. One to watch for sure.
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Sat May 09, 2015 8:27 am

Cacau won his race easily. Still worth watching.
Carnivore finished 6th of 6. Running last at $2500.
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Mon May 11, 2015 7:59 am

Izvestia wrote:Cacau won his race easily. Still worth watching.
Carnivore finished 6th of 6. Running last at $2500.
Saw that, even more concerned about Canivore now.
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Wed May 13, 2015 8:06 am

Most Happy Fella runs in the 3rd @ Belmont today- hasn't show much and goes up in class.
http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/BE ... html#RACE3

Once upon a time- him and Canivore were racing against each other in the Wood
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Show Ya Luv Parx 9 today- has not hit the board in almost a year, did nothing as odds on last out.
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Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:56 pm

I think any horse claimed by D. Jacobsen deserves to be on a "watch".
North Slope was claimed yesterday for $62,500 from Godolphin at Aqueduct.
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Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:01 pm

Another horse I am putting a "watch" on... Asserting Bear. He is half brother to multiple champion Inish Glora.
Horse was purchased for $50,695 as a yearling and won $461,894 for Bear Stable, including the Coronation Futurity and Marine Stakes, and was 3rd in the Queens Plate and -this year- was 3rd in the Seagram S. (G3).
He sold for $1,500 at the CTHS Winter Mixed Sale as part of the Bear dispersal to Burton Sipp... who I think is known for running worn down warriors for cheap, and then unloading them. He's a BIT shady.
Yuck. Asserting Bear is a pretty classy horse. Can't find anything else to do with him?
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Some of you may want to watch a filly named Texas Gem. I didn't get a good look at them today on the track feed, but there was a lot of talk about her "hound dog" ears. Apparently she had normal ears but had surgery to remove some cysts in the ears and as a result, her ears are in permanent flop mode.
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Admin wrote:Some of you may want to watch a filly named Texas Gem. I didn't get a good look at them today on the track feed, but there was a lot of talk about her "hound dog" ears. Apparently she had normal ears but had surgery to remove some cysts in the ears and as a result, her ears are in permanent flop mode.
Here's a YT clip about her:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dlzLDCvDao
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Thanks, Peep!
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Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:32 pm

A lop!
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So, I just noticed this- and it's concerning

Avanzare who is a multiple graded stakes winner- won over $500k- returns to the races after 1 3/4 years. I knew that he was working at Winstar and Keenland- and now shows up for a $16K tag. I realize that he is coming off a long layoff- but why not retire if he is truly having issues? Not sure what to make of this

http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... y=T&rbt=TB

http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/FG ... html#RACE2
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Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:48 pm

Put this in the GR thread- but I think it needs to be put here as well for more to see

Please retire Small Giant, he is being run into the ground and I see a breakdown coming.
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serenassong wrote:So, I just noticed this- and it's concerning

Avanzare who is a multiple graded stakes winner- won over $500k- returns to the races after 1 3/4 years. I knew that he was working at Winstar and Keenland- and now shows up for a $16K tag. I realize that he is coming off a long layoff- but why not retire if he is truly having issues? Not sure what to make of this

http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... y=T&rbt=TB

http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/FG ... html#RACE2
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Karl Broberg claimed Avanzare and he was the only one to put in a slip. Broberg said he only put claim in because he knew Tom Proctor wouldn't run an unsound horse.

“Normally those are sucker horses. He’d been off 22 months & I’m normally I’m the one making fun of those people."

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Avanzare, the 7-year-old gelding, wins for fun in the 5 1/2-furlong turf sprint, which was never his distance. We'll see if he got claimed.
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Sparrow Castle wrote:
serenassong wrote:So, I just noticed this- and it's concerning

Avanzare who is a multiple graded stakes winner- won over $500k- returns to the races after 1 3/4 years. I knew that he was working at Winstar and Keenland- and now shows up for a $16K tag. I realize that he is coming off a long layoff- but why not retire if he is truly having issues? Not sure what to make of this

http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... y=T&rbt=TB

http://www.equibase.com/static/entry/FG ... html#RACE2
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Karl Broberg claimed Avanzare and he was the only one to put in a slip. Broberg said he only put claim in because he knew Tom Proctor wouldn't run an unsound horse.

“Normally those are sucker horses. He’d been off 22 months & I’m normally I’m the one making fun of those people."

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Avanzare, the 7-year-old gelding, wins for fun in the 5 1/2-furlong turf sprint, which was never his distance. We'll see if he got claimed.

I hope he does well in his new home
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Jeremy wrote a story about this.

Avanzare Wins in Return, Claimed by Broberg
...There was the drop to the claiming ranks—and a low level, on top of that—but Avanzare was also returning to racing off a 22-month layoff, since his last start in the Canadian Turf Stakes (G3T) at Gulfstream Park in February of 2016. Adding to the claiming game of poker was that Avanzare was set to go in an about 5 1/2-furlong turf sprint. In his 16 previous starts, he never ran in a race shorter than a mile.

"Normally those are the sucker horses," Broberg said. "He'd been off 22 months, and I'm normally I'm the one making fun of those people (who claim horses like that)."

But in the back of his mind, Broberg had a feeling Avanzare still had some run in him, and he was confident trainer Tom Proctor would not run an unsound horse at any level.

"When you look at the connections involved—Proctor is not going to run one that's just gone bad, and I know what the horse has previously done," Broberg said. "I just knew Proctor wouldn't run one with only one race left in him."

With all those elements of doubt working against him, Avanzare showed his quality in the second race of the day, closed from seventh in the field of nine, and surged to the wire under jockey Adam Beschizza to win by four lengths. Avanzare finished off the about 5 1/2 furlongs on good turf in 1:03.55.

And sure enough, Broberg was the only trainer who put a claim in. Avanzare is his, but he's still concerned he'll find something physically off in the gelding when he's examined Dec. 29.

"Let's be honest. He beat nothing. My excitement is very cautioned, because I'm expecting to see something horrible in the morning," Broberg said. "With a layoff like that, I'm expecting a tendon, but that's just speculating. We've brought horses back like that and odds are they bow again."

Broberg, who also owns Avanzare under the name of End Zone Athletics, said he doesn't expect the gelding to return to his previous graded stakes level, but that doesn't mean he can't target any number of minor stakes in the Southwest or other parts of the country, or remain successful in the claiming ranks. The Imposter, who rallied to finish second Thursday, obviously isn't of the class of grade 1 winner Talco (who Avanzare defeated in the Del Mar Mile) or multiple graded winner Za Approval (who he beat in the Arcadia), but Avanzare surely didn't look like he lacked an interest in racing when he kicked away from his rivals on the Fair Grounds grass.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... by-broberg
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:58 am

Saw that, and it is all over the place. Im glad they saw concern in what I spotted as well.
Many eyes on the boy now :D
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1h1 hour ago
Believe me, I understand horse racing is fundamentally just as much a business as it is a sport & I've never been one to suggest retirement to any connections, but if MGSW Silentio is ever entered in another race, then we as a community have failed him.

I agree wholeheartedly with this. He finished last at Turfway today, a race I watched because I follow another horse in the race. This is very concerning...

http://www.equibase.com/static/chart/pd ... 18USA7.pdf
http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... registry=T

jake ballis @jakeballis
2h2 hours ago
Silentio should never be running. Shame on the connections. If we had a governing body this wouldn’t be allowed

Thoroughbred Info @ThorobredInfo 8h8 hours ago
The gorgeous SoCal MGSW #Silentio -- 3rd to Wise Dan in the 2013 @BreedersCup Mile -- has returned to racing after standing stud in TX in 2017. Ran last by 38 lengths today in $40K claimer at Turfway Park. Now a 9YO.
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