Standout Losing Efforts

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Mylute
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Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:32 am

No one has mentioned Real Quiet's Belmont, so I will.

I read a conspiracy years ago that Real Quiet actually did win but the New York stewards didn't want a California guy (Baffert) to win the Triple Crown so they edited all the photos and footage.

I don't necessarily subscribe to this but I will say it isn't the most impossible thing I've heard...
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Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:20 am

Mylute wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:32 am
No one has mentioned Real Quiet's Belmont, so I will.

I read a conspiracy years ago that Real Quiet actually did win but the New York stewards didn't want a California guy (Baffert) to win the Triple Crown so they edited all the photos and footage.

I don't necessarily subscribe to this but I will say it isn't the most impossible thing I've heard...
WarBiscuit mentioned it on the previous page toward the bottom. I was rooting all the way for Victory Gallop, but I did feel bad for Real Quiet - he came so close.

And yeah, I don't buy that conspiracy theory. Especially considering by two decades later, that very same California guy had won the Triple Crown TWICE.
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Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:30 am

starrydreamer wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:20 am
Mylute wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:32 am
No one has mentioned Real Quiet's Belmont, so I will.

I read a conspiracy years ago that Real Quiet actually did win but the New York stewards didn't want a California guy (Baffert) to win the Triple Crown so they edited all the photos and footage.

I don't necessarily subscribe to this but I will say it isn't the most impossible thing I've heard...
WarBiscuit mentioned it on the previous page toward the bottom. I was rooting all the way for Victory Gallop, but I did feel bad for Real Quiet - he came so close.

And yeah, I don't buy that conspiracy theory. Especially considering by two decades later, that very same California guy had won the Triple Crown TWICE.
But don’t you get it? Pharoah and Justify are part of the cover up. I’d go further into this but I really gotta go. I’m expecting Amazon to deliver my new foil hat any minute now.
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Curtis wrote:
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But don’t you get it? Pharoah and Justify are part of the cover up. I’d go further into this but I really gotta go. I’m expecting Amazon to deliver my new foil hat any minute now.
Have you noticed how Amazon has improved their delivery times, probably has something to do with the Earth being flat after all.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:43 pm

Honestly, Victory Gallop was so badly interfered-with in the stretch that his winning effort was the more impressive one- and it saved us all from a lot of drama.

Great topic, though! My first thought was Congaree's third in the 2001 Kentucky Derby. He ran his heart out that day as the only horse who touched that scorching pace and still hung around at the finish. A tremendous effort.

This one is heavily biased, but I think it's a legitimate one. Commentator in the 2008 Met Mile set an astonishing pace over a completely dead racetrack, was passed by First Defence in the stretch, came back, but just couldn't hold off the late-closing Divine in the final sixteenth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81OKF_XkERQ

The 2004 Woodward was a race that didn't deserve a loser. Poor Saint Liam ran into some buzzsaws in his career, and he got his recognition eventually, but I think this effort was his best of all, as he made Ghostzapper work for every inch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Y1EDBJ4lk

Speaking of Ghostzapper, remember his King's Bishop? He was something of an unknown going into this race, but he sure turned some heads when he closed six lengths in the final eighth... so glad NYRA finally posted this race replay on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck_YTnHRo4U&t

Finally, speaking of fast finishes, Animal Kingdom ran an astounding race off a nine-month layoff in the 2012 Mile, and almost certainly would have won if he'd had any space to run in the stretch at all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjaQzlN82fg
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Tessablue wrote:
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Honestly, Victory Gallop was so badly interfered-with in the stretch that his winning effort was the more impressive one- and it saved us all from a lot of drama.
Yeah, Victory Gallop getting there saved a lot of controversy. Taking Real Quiet down would have been far more of a slam dunk than Max in the Derby and I agree with the Derby DQ. I'm sure the last thing the Belmont stewards, provincialism or not, would have wanted to do would to have to take down a potential TC winner. Now if one wants to argue 'Meaux Money moved early...............
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Seattle Slew in the 1978 Jockey Club Gold Cup. He sprinted for the full mile and a half, battled a fresh Exceller all through the stretch and only lost by a nose. A stride after the wire, he was in front again.

Bill Shoemaker, who rode Exceller, said after the race, “When I hit the stretch I thought I had it won by 10 lengths. Because horses can’t do what Slew just did.”
Agree 100% with this one. Only other horse that could sprint the whole mile and a half was big Sec.
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Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:19 am

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Congaree and Milwaukee Brew were both winners in the 2003 Santa Anita Handicap https://youtu.be/daiO6JIKtyk
Agreed!
I was a big Congaree fan....
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Tessablue wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:43 pm
Honestly, Victory Gallop was so badly interfered-with in the stretch that his winning effort was the more impressive one- and it saved us all from a lot of drama.

Great topic, though! My first thought was Congaree's third in the 2001 Kentucky Derby. He ran his heart out that day as the only horse who touched that scorching pace and still hung around at the finish. A tremendous effort.

This one is heavily biased, but I think it's a legitimate one. Commentator in the 2008 Met Mile set an astonishing pace over a completely dead racetrack, was passed by First Defence in the stretch, came back, but just couldn't hold off the late-closing Divine in the final sixteenth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81OKF_XkERQ

The 2004 Woodward was a race that didn't deserve a loser. Poor Saint Liam ran into some buzzsaws in his career, and he got his recognition eventually, but I think this effort was his best of all, as he made Ghostzapper work for every inch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Y1EDBJ4lk

Speaking of Ghostzapper, remember his King's Bishop? He was something of an unknown going into this race, but he sure turned some heads when he closed six lengths in the final eighth... so glad NYRA finally posted this race replay on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck_YTnHRo4U&t

Finally, speaking of fast finishes, Animal Kingdom ran an astounding race off a nine-month layoff in the 2012 Mile, and almost certainly would have won if he'd had any space to run in the stretch at all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjaQzlN82fg
1. Nine-year old me was all-in on Real Quiet but older me is all-in on "that would have been a DQ".
2. I don't think I appreciated what Congaree did when it was happening, which is most of the reason I brought this thread up - not him, specifically, but just in general. Like Buck's Boy, for example. I was ten at the time and annoyed that Silverbulletday lost and didn't have any understanding of how pace works and now that I do I think I'm more impressed with the Turf that he lost than the Turf that he won.
3. I was wondering if you'd chime in with a Commentator performance.
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Starine wrote:
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I'm sure I will think of more later, but the one that came to mind right away was Carson Hollow in the Test Stakes. She dueled with eventual winner You for the length of the stretch, after setting dazzling fractions of 21:3 and 44:1, to lose by mere inches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCuJjhBBCSs
This was the first one that came to mind for me too. I was going to say Flat Fleet Feet in the Go For Wand when she lost to Hidden Lake, but watching the replay again, I hadn't remembered them coming back to the field so drastically between the 1/8 pole and the wire.
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Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:59 pm

2016 Breeders' Cup Distaff... Songbird/Beholder
This is the greatest race that I have ever witnessed in person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKPAyflc7FA
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Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:43 pm

Tessablue wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:43 pm


The 2004 Woodward was a race that didn't deserve a loser. Poor Saint Liam ran into some buzzsaws in his career, and he got his recognition eventually, but I think this effort was his best of all, as he made Ghostzapper work for every inch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Y1EDBJ4lk
I was trying to think of a Ghostzapper race earlier where he won but had to work for it and couldn't think of it. It was this, with Saint Liam.

And yes, that Distaff with Songbird and Beholder really didn't deserve a loser. Both mares were spectacular.
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Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:16 pm

Seattle Slew's performance in the '78 JCGC was remarkable and ranks #1 in this category.

An honorable mention goes to Swain in the '98 BC Classic. He ran sideways for the better part of the stretch and still managed to finish 3rd in what is arguably the best BBC field ever assembled.
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Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:01 am

Sahkee in the 2001 BC Classic.
His effort made that stretch duel so memorable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4juh_vR21Pw
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Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:25 am

Sham.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Bodemeister in the 2012 Kentucky Derby. It was a freaky performance and a tough loss for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tn9hye7U6g

Crystal Ocean in the King George giving it all he has but being turned away by the super gutsy Enable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EnyHrfNQA

American Pharoah in the 2015 Travers, he ran his heart out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux6ICuvurQc

Orfevre in the 2012 Arc, so heartbreaking for Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kluttGunQc

Sea of Class in the 2018 Arc, a stride past the wire she was the winner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0srpZ6-Guuk
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Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:37 pm

stark wrote:
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Sham.
a TC winner in almost any other year, he sure got unlucky being born in '70.
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sweettalk wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:37 pm
stark wrote:
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Sham.
a TC winner in almost any other year, he sure got unlucky being born in '70.
Speaking of which, I'm surprised there's no love for Alydar yet.
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Calypso wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:44 pm
sweettalk wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:37 pm
stark wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:25 am
Sham.
a TC winner in almost any other year, he sure got unlucky being born in '70.
Speaking of which, I'm surprised there's no love for Alydar yet.
I mentioned him, but I am surprised no one else has.
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Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:10 pm

Charlie wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:49 pm
Calypso wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:44 pm
sweettalk wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:37 pm


a TC winner in almost any other year, he sure got unlucky being born in '70.
Speaking of which, I'm surprised there's no love for Alydar yet.
I mentioned him, but I am surprised no one else has.
Indeed you did! Totally missed it, lol.
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