2019 Preakness Stakes

Vandalay
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Sun May 19, 2019 12:24 pm

OK, I don't post very often, but I LOVED WOW's win yesterday,..as for the West's, they need to stop talking. I'm guessing I'm not the only one who rolled their eyes when "he needs a rest" was their excuse for skipping the Preakness. He was one of the freshest horses going into the derby, and if the derby takes that much out of your horse, maybe the triple crown trail isn't for you. I also have a hunch that Maximum Security is a horse who "needs the lead", if he gets eyeballed, he migt back out..
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Sun May 19, 2019 1:10 pm

CoronadosQuest wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 12:07 pm
I think the biggest shocker isnt War Front siring a Triple Crown race winner... its a Sadler's Wells mare producing a War Front one LOL
Bahahaha this is true. However, the female family also produced Aldebaran (multiple G1 winner on dirt) in addition to a bunch of turf stakes winners, so it's not so completely out of the ordinary.

War Front is probably slightly overpriced, but if you look at his Average Earnings Index and the average price of his weanlings and yearlings in addition to the fact that they limit his book, I don't think it's that unreasonably overpriced. Claiborne has been very good at managing his stud career, I think.
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Sun May 19, 2019 1:35 pm

Saw somewhere earlier that War Front started out at like either $17K or $7K.

It seems like War Front doesn't have that many sons that "go on" and keep the form they had as 2/3 year olds on the surface (and from memory), but that's probably largely due to the climate of retiring to stud ASAP.
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Sun May 19, 2019 1:36 pm

Also, once again, the BCJ Turf produces Classic contenders.
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Sun May 19, 2019 7:19 pm

Article about War of Will's weird gait- https://www.paulickreport.com/news/trip ... -lameness/
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Sun May 19, 2019 7:40 pm

Tessablue wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 7:19 pm
Article about War of Will's weird gait- https://www.paulickreport.com/news/trip ... -lameness/
Thanks for the link.

Treatments are varied, but most veterinarians agree that mild cases are a major cause for concern.


:?: Do they proofread these things?
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Sun May 19, 2019 8:31 pm

Hat's off to Casse as he plans to run WoW in the Belmont. If so it looks like he will be one of the very few if not only horse to run in all three TC events.
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Sun May 19, 2019 9:40 pm

And to think if it wasn't for the debacle that was the LA Derby he would've been the derby favorite. Huge fan of his daddy, glad to see he's got his classic winner. Nice to see War of Will an awesome dirt horse, but with that pedigree (if he was mine) I'd give him a few more shots on the grass. Why not? Assuming he isn't totally gassed, that Sadler's Wells should help him hopefully get a 1 1/2. We'll see.
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Sun May 19, 2019 9:41 pm

Is Maximum Security still the pro-tem leader of the 3yo division at this point? Or someone else?
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Sun May 19, 2019 11:39 pm

What a whacky but ultimately refreshing race.
This year's Triple Crown has been anything but dull.
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Mon May 20, 2019 10:36 am

Mylute wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 1:35 pm
Saw somewhere earlier that War Front started out at like either $17K or $7K.

It seems like War Front doesn't have that many sons that "go on" and keep the form they had as 2/3 year olds on the surface (and from memory), but that's probably largely due to the climate of retiring to stud ASAP.
I've followed War Front's entire stud career. I have a spreadsheet. It's kinda ridiculous, but I thought when he was racing that he'd make a good sire.

War Front's first year at stud was 2007, and his fee was $12,500. It went down to $10,000 in 2009, I think, which is when his first crop were 2 year olds. Once his offspring started racing, his fee went up and up.
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Mon May 20, 2019 12:16 pm

starrydreamer wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:36 am
Mylute wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 1:35 pm
Saw somewhere earlier that War Front started out at like either $17K or $7K.

It seems like War Front doesn't have that many sons that "go on" and keep the form they had as 2/3 year olds on the surface (and from memory), but that's probably largely due to the climate of retiring to stud ASAP.
I've followed War Front's entire stud career. I have a spreadsheet. It's kinda ridiculous, but I thought when he was racing that he'd make a good sire.

War Front's first year at stud was 2007, and his fee was $12,500. It went down to $10,000 in 2009, I think, which is when his first crop were 2 year olds. Once his offspring started racing, his fee went up and up.
He leads all active sires with12% SWs/foals, 7% GSWs/foals, and 3% G1SWs/foals. The average is 3% SW/foals, let alone GSWs and G1SWs.
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Mon May 20, 2019 2:16 pm

I'd give WOW the edge.
It is extremely difficult to get back to top speed after being yanked on like he had to be on the turn.
Too many mixed signals.
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Mon May 20, 2019 3:41 pm

Another tribute to Gander and the Gatsas brothers, which I just found. How many horses are so treasured?

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/ga ... as-family/
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Tue May 21, 2019 8:38 pm

To be honest I expected WOW's half by Tapit would go for $1 million.

He sold for $260K.
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Wed May 22, 2019 6:20 am

If he wins the Belmont, the case could be made that had he not been cut off by MS in the Derby, he might have been a TC winner.

I love this guy and hope he can emulate Catholic Boy and get a G1 on the turf as s 3 year old.
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