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R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:24 am
by tachyon
King Kamehameha died today at the age of 18. :(
He will be missed.

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translation of the JRA poster:
1600m for which the speed is required.
2400m where the stamina and the turn of foot are tested.
Winning both G1s (NHK Mile & Tokyo Yushun), he became the big King of the Fuchu turf.
What will the King conquer next with his big ambition?


Kate Hunter wrote:
Deep Impact was the leader for a large group of Sunday Silence line sires. King Kamehameha likely will have a dynasty all his own. Such sad times to lose two such legendary sires....
https://twitter.com/KeibaKate/status/11 ... 0888169472

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:44 am
by Mylute
Wow.

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:47 am
by Ziggypop
Wonder what the cause of death is.

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:38 am
by shenanigans
Tachyon: Deepest condolences to you and to all racing fans in Japan (and indeed, racing fans everywhere). To lose Deep Impact and now King Kamehameha in such a short period of time is heartbreaking and a huge loss for the sport. They will both be greatly missed.

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:50 am
by Retrospectiv
Ziggypop wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:47 am
Wonder what the cause of death is.
Bit more information:

https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/j ... h5gg0JL8rM

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:56 pm
by CorridorZ75
It really is past- time for stud managers to start re-evaluating the super books they set out for these stallions. Even if it were not already a growing problem in terms of genetic diversity, it is obviously showing out as more data comes in over the years that many of these overworked stallions pay for it in life expectancy and fertility.

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:09 pm
by tachyon
shenanigans wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:38 am
Tachyon: Deepest condolences to you and to all racing fans in Japan (and indeed, racing fans everywhere). To lose Deep Impact and now King Kamehameha in such a short period of time is heartbreaking and a huge loss for the sport. They will both be greatly missed.
Thank you.
It's a very sad day.
Both King Kamehameha(JPN)(Kingmambo) and Deep Impact(JPN)(Sunday Silence) perfectly fulfilled their duties as the flagship stallions for their sirelines respectively and for Shadai.
But it's a shame that they couldn't have long and happy retirements..

TDN has posted a wonderful write-up about King Kamehameha and his legacy.
That will help people understand how much he meant to racing scenes and breedings in Japan.
He was simply great.

''King Kamehameha Dead At 18''
http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/ki ... ead-at-18/

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:54 pm
by Ziggypop
Retrospectiv wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:50 am
Ziggypop wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:47 am
Wonder what the cause of death is.
Bit more information:

https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/j ... h5gg0JL8rM
Thank you.

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:56 pm
by Ziggypop
tachyon wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:09 pm
shenanigans wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:38 am
Tachyon: Deepest condolences to you and to all racing fans in Japan (and indeed, racing fans everywhere). To lose Deep Impact and now King Kamehameha in such a short period of time is heartbreaking and a huge loss for the sport. They will both be greatly missed.
Thank you.
It's a very sad day.
Both King Kamehameha(JPN)(Kingmambo) and Deep Impact(JPN)(Sunday Silence) perfectly fulfilled their duties as the flagship stallions for their sirelines respectively and for Shadai.
But it's a shame that they couldn't have long and happy retirements..

TDN has posted a wonderful write-up about King Kamehameha and his legacy.
That will help people understand how much he meant to racing scenes and breedings in Japan.
He was simply great.

''King Kamehameha Dead At 18''
http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/ki ... ead-at-18/
I am so sorry

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:49 pm
by lurkey mclurker
OMG not him too!!! :cry: :cry: :cry: ...I can't even right now. He wasn't in my heart like Deep Impact was, but this is another just huge walloping blow to Japan.

Gah. :( :( :(

ETA: I mean I know he was pensioned, but you just want them to be able to enjoy retirement and watch them grow woolly after a few years, like Storm Cat & Indy. Boo. :(

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:20 am
by tachyon
I believe that King Kamehameha showed his best as he won the G1 NHK Mile Cup.

-- replay of the G1 NHK Mile Cup 1600m turf at Tokyo 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfrprAUUstM
1st. (#13) King Kamehameha(JPN) (Kingmambo)

chart
https://www.jbis.jp/race/result/2004050 ... 1565527481


But he went on to win the G1 Tokyo Yushun in a record time by his talent.
Many think that his Derby was run with one of the most competitive fields of all-time.
In fact he was the only serious challenger who could call a halt to the dominance of the Sunday Silence's descendants in Japan.

-- replay of the Tokyo Yushun (Japanese Derby) 2400m turf at Tokyo 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt1Ug63DmWM
1st. (#12) King Kamehameha(JPN) (Kingmambo)
2nd. (#5) Heart's Cry(JPN) (Sunday Silence)
3rd. (#17) Higher Game(JPN) (Sunday Silence)
4th. (#14) Kyowa Splendor(JPN) (Sunday Silence)
5th. (#13) Suzuka Mambo(JPN) (Sunday Silence)
6th (#4) Daiwa Major(JPN) (Sunday Silence)
7th (#18) Pisa no Kukai(JPN) (Sunday Silence)
10th (#11) Great Journey(JPN) (Sunday Silence)
14th (#6) Admire Big(JPN) (Sunday Silence)

chart (edit)
https://www.jbis.jp/race/result/2004053 ... 1565567673

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:13 pm
by Starine
That is a terrible shame, and the blow feels that much bigger coming right on the heels of the untimely passing of Deep Impact.

King Kamehameha has a number of promising sons at stud, but Lord Kanaloa will ensure his legacy will remain at the forefront of the Japanese breeding industry.

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:54 am
by tachyon
-- from uma-furusato.com News

https://uma-furusato.com/news/detail/_id_99069

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in tribute to both Deep Impact and King Kamehameha

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:11 pm
by Private Thoughts
How beautiful and touching that a nation could love these two talented and gorgeous boys so much that they can honour them like this, and allow the public to share in their memorials.

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:28 am
by tachyon
Starine wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:13 pm
King Kamehameha has a number of promising sons at stud, but Lord Kanaloa will ensure his legacy will remain at the forefront of the Japanese breeding industry.
Lord Kanaloa sired eight winners in JRA over the weekend in tribute to his sire.
Rulership will be represented by his son Kiseki in the Arc this year.
King Kamehameha is likely to be the most influential sire of sires in years to come.

Re: R.I.P. King Kamehameha

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:29 pm
by tachyon
Let me double post this..

-- from TDN

''Lord Kanaloa Anchors 2020 Shadai Roster and Fees''
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/l ... -and-fees/


-- full list of Shadai Stallions in order of 2020 Stud Fees:

Stud Fee 2020 (in JPY) : Sire Name (Sire of Sire)

20,000,000 : Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (King Kamehameha)
10,000,000 : Heart's Cry(JPN) (Sunday Silence)
7,000,000 : Duramente(JPN) (King Kamehameha)
6,000,000 : Bricks and Mortar(USA) (Giant's Causeway)
6,000,000 : Daiwa Major(JPN) (Sunday Silence)
6,000,000 : Harbinger(GB) (Dansili)
6,000,000 : Kizuna(JPN) (Deep Impact)
6,000,000 : Rulership (King Kamehameha)
5,000,000 : Epiphaneia(JPN) (Symboli Kris S)
4,000,000 : Just a Way(JPN) (Heart's Cry)
4,000,000 : Kitasan Black(JPN) (Black Tide)
4,000,000 : Maurice(JPN) (Screen Hero)
3,000,000 : Drefong(USA) (Gio Ponti)
3,000,000 : New Year's Day(USA) (Street Cry)
3,000,000 : Orfevre(JPN) (Stay Gold)
3,000,000 : Satono Diamond(JPN) (Deep Impact)
2,500,000 : Kinshasa no Kiseki(AUS) (Fuji Kiseki)
2,500,000 : Real Steel(JPN) (Deep Impact)
2,000,000 : Mind Your Biscuits(USA) (Posse)
2,000,000 : Real Impact(JPN) (Deep Impact)
1,500,000 : Isla Bonita(JPN) (Fuji Kiseki)
1,500,000 : Mikki Isle(JPN) (Deep Impact)
1,500,000 : Novellist(IRE) (Monsun)
1,500,000 : Satono Crown(JPN) (Marju)
1,000,000 : Satono Aladdin(JPN) (Deep Impact)
800,000 : Logotype(JPN) (Lohengrin)
800,000 : Red Falx(JPN) (Swept Overboard)
500,000 : Reach the Crown(JPN) (Special Week)

private : Dream Journey(JPN) (Stay Gold)