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-- from uma-furusato.com news
https://uma-furusato.com/news/detail/_id_100066

Mayano Top Gun(JPN), 1992H. Brian's Time(USA) x Alp Me Please(USA) by Blushing Groom(FR), died of old age on Nov 3rd 2019 at Yushun Stallion Station where he had been pensioned since 2015.
And the ceremony to commemorate him was held at Yushun Memorial Park on Nov 8th 2019.

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Mayano Top Gun(JPN) was one of the greatest runners sired by Brian's Time(USA), along with the TC winner Narita Brian(JPN).
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000255813/

Of his 21 starts, the Tenno Sho Spring 1997 has been remebered by many fans here as one of the greatest races in modern Japanese racing.

https://www.thoroughbredchampions.com/f ... 690#p95690

His nickname was ''Mach Shock Wave''.

https://www.thoroughbredchampions.com/f ... 082#p96082
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Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:45 pm

Tachyon, thank you for sharing that news about Mayano Top Gun. I love the memorial ceremony. It's very touching. Rest in peace, Mach Shock Wave.
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Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:54 pm

After watching that race, I was struck by the fact that Mayano Top Gun had the same type of long, low-headed style of running as the great A.P. Indy.
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Have y'all heard about Green Gratto?
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Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:17 pm

Mylute wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:37 pm
I have several questions.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-reg ... 0/bahjatty
47 years removed from his maternal grandsire -- that's impressive.
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Mylute wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:53 pm
Have y'all heard about Green Gratto?
Buckle in. This will be long. It's from DRF.

So G1 winner Green Gratto (Here's Zealous) retired to Total Bloodstock Farm in NY to commence stud duties in 2019.

He was apparently not able to impregnate mares. Efforts were made to combat his infertility, as is custom, but nothing would do. His current "trainer" Tamara Levey says that, from here, the following happened:

Once the partnership that owned him learned he would not be a stallion he was sent to Kentucky and put out in pasture, where it was "apparent he did not receive the best of care." His current owners, Norman and Liz Wilson, learned of this somehow and convinced his owners to let him go to their private farm in Ocala. He was "not in the best of shape" when he arrived. His owners were apparently intent on selling him in a livestock auction, which the Wilsons had to convince them to forego. Eventually, they relented when they bought Green Gratto themselves. They kept him at their farm and nursed him back to good health.

The Wilsons did another reproductive checkup on the guy to clear everything up, and he was indeed sterile. So, they gelded him. They planned to let him live out retirement as a pasture ornament, but Green Gratto wouldn't have that, as he was incredibly spirited and aggressive towards pasture mates. Tamara Levey, who trains horses for the Wilsons and has worked with them for some time, offered to let him occupy a stall and paddock at a local training center (thinking that the familiarity of the track would be nice for him). The Wilsons did but Green Gratto still wasn't happy.

Liz Wilson decided one day to throw some tack on Green Gratto and let him go out with her trainees. He enjoyed it, so they let him "train." Apparently Green Gratto's health, weight, behavior, and happiness greatly improved. They eventually let him put in a work and he became "too much to handle" on the small track. So, they sent him to Gulfstream Park West. Before doing so, they got him a complete physical and he received a 100% clean bill of health.

On November 10, Green Gratto then had an official workout, running a half-mile in 49 seconds, after which he "cooled out great." Then, news of Green Gratto's work reached social media and a natural sh*tstorm occurred. You can imagine how people are reacting to this and all the accusations thrown.

After being attacked on social media, Tamara Levy announced through DRF that they will now send Green Gratto back to the owner's farm. She said that the horse's best interest was always held first and foremost.

“I understand the fact he was a Grade 1 winner and earned $1 million, but we have no control over his résumé,” Levy said. “At no point did we have any intention of running him for a $6,250 claiming tag. We weren’t doing this looking to get rid of him. If we didn’t believe he could still run at a high level, we wouldn’t have run him. But now, because of social media, he’s going to have to go home and be deprived of doing something he really enjoys.”

Levy said she resents the fact people who have had never had contact with Green Gratto, or any idea what’s best for this horse, have basically dictated his fate.

“Old Friends and Florida TRAC offered to take him in, but, trust me, at no point since this ownership group took him in has he needed to be rescued,” Levy said. “And he certainly wouldn’t be the only 9-year-old running here or at other tracks around the country, for that matter. I just think it becomes a dangerous road we’re traveling down when we start letting social media and people who are non-horsemen start dictating what horses we can run and which ones we cannot because they think they know better.”
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Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:33 pm

G2 Winner Catapult Sold to Stand in Turkey
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... mber-sale/

G3W New York Central, Liam's Legend Heading to Race in Saudi Arabia
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... mber-sale/
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Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:54 pm

Mylute wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:27 pm
Mylute wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:53 pm
Have y'all heard about Green Gratto?
Buckle in. This will be long. It's from DRF.

So G1 winner Green Gratto (Here's Zealous) retired to Total Bloodstock Farm in NY to commence stud duties in 2019.

He was apparently not able to impregnate mares. Efforts were made to combat his infertility, as is custom, but nothing would do. His current "trainer" Tamara Levey says that, from here, the following happened:

Once the partnership that owned him learned he would not be a stallion he was sent to Kentucky and put out in pasture, where it was "apparent he did not receive the best of care." His current owners, Norman and Liz Wilson, learned of this somehow and convinced his owners to let him go to their private farm in Ocala. He was "not in the best of shape" when he arrived. His owners were apparently intent on selling him in a livestock auction, which the Wilsons had to convince them to forego. Eventually, they relented when they bought Green Gratto themselves. They kept him at their farm and nursed him back to good health.

The Wilsons did another reproductive checkup on the guy to clear everything up, and he was indeed sterile. So, they gelded him. They planned to let him live out retirement as a pasture ornament, but Green Gratto wouldn't have that, as he was incredibly spirited and aggressive towards pasture mates. Tamara Levey, who trains horses for the Wilsons and has worked with them for some time, offered to let him occupy a stall and paddock at a local training center (thinking that the familiarity of the track would be nice for him). The Wilsons did but Green Gratto still wasn't happy.

Liz Wilson decided one day to throw some tack on Green Gratto and let him go out with her trainees. He enjoyed it, so they let him "train." Apparently Green Gratto's health, weight, behavior, and happiness greatly improved. They eventually let him put in a work and he became "too much to handle" on the small track. So, they sent him to Gulfstream Park West. Before doing so, they got him a complete physical and he received a 100% clean bill of health.

On November 10, Green Gratto then had an official workout, running a half-mile in 49 seconds, after which he "cooled out great." Then, news of Green Gratto's work reached social media and a natural sh*tstorm occurred. You can imagine how people are reacting to this and all the accusations thrown.

After being attacked on social media, Tamara Levy announced through DRF that they will now send Green Gratto back to the owner's farm. She said that the horse's best interest was always held first and foremost.

“I understand the fact he was a Grade 1 winner and earned $1 million, but we have no control over his résumé,” Levy said. “At no point did we have any intention of running him for a $6,250 claiming tag. We weren’t doing this looking to get rid of him. If we didn’t believe he could still run at a high level, we wouldn’t have run him. But now, because of social media, he’s going to have to go home and be deprived of doing something he really enjoys.”

Levy said she resents the fact people who have had never had contact with Green Gratto, or any idea what’s best for this horse, have basically dictated his fate.

“Old Friends and Florida TRAC offered to take him in, but, trust me, at no point since this ownership group took him in has he needed to be rescued,” Levy said. “And he certainly wouldn’t be the only 9-year-old running here or at other tracks around the country, for that matter. I just think it becomes a dangerous road we’re traveling down when we start letting social media and people who are non-horsemen start dictating what horses we can run and which ones we cannot because they think they know better.”
I saw it when it first started brewing on Twitter and yeah, the DRF article and associated facts are VASTLY different than the original message being spun. :roll:
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Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:07 pm

Why wasn't there this much of an uproar when Pants On Fire was exiled to Saudi Arabia?
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Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:31 pm

lurkey mclurker wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:54 pm

I saw it when it first started brewing on Twitter and yeah, the DRF article and associated facts are VASTLY different than the original message being spun. :roll:
Every controversy should be subject to the 48 hour rule. If, after 48 hours, the original facts and context are still intact, then go ahead and form an opinion. But still leave a little room for skepticism.
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Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:50 am

Mylute wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:07 pm
Why wasn't there this much of an uproar when Pants On Fire was exiled to Saudi Arabia?
Because no one knew until awhile after he was exported.
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Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:06 am

Mylute wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:37 pm
I have several questions.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-reg ... 0/bahjatty
Is one of them, how did they manage to photoshop pieces of 4 or 5 horses together to make the photo?

Truly I can't find anything I like about the horse. Completely ignoring the fact that he is 2 and unraced. He seems a prime candidate for gelding to me. Its not like he is a 1/2 brother to a super star stallion or anything. His sire hasn't sired a SW. His 1/2 brother, who looks a hell of alot better was a GSW and is at stud, hasn't managed to sire a SW. Sure he comes from a nice female line but bleh.

I'm not against giving horses a chance at stud either. Like I understand why they gave Curlin To Mischief a chance at stud even though he didn't race.
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Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:38 pm

Perfect Soul pensioned.
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Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:33 pm

Run Away and Hide Sold to Stand in Turkey
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... in-turkey/

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Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:09 pm

@LongBallToNoOne
27m
Shadai 2019 fees for some new / recents from the 🇺🇸

BRICKS AND MORTAR ¥6,000,000
NEW YEARS DAY ¥3,000,000
DREFONG ¥3,000,000
MIND YOUR BISCUITS ¥2,000,000
Both Lord Kanaloa (¥20million) & Duramente (¥7million) have full/closed books.

https://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/c ... 0ca9cc7f77
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:49 pm

Can't say I'm too surprised about that.
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Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:07 am

Well (if true) this would put a cat amongst the Chromies
https://mobile.twitter.com/ss0325JP/sta ... 5440056320
Ask me any questions you have about New Zealand and Australia racing
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Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:42 am

RugbyGirl wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:07 am
Well (if true) this would put a cat amongst the Chromies
https://mobile.twitter.com/ss0325JP/sta ... 5440056320
It has to be true. The person doesn't appear to spread rumors. Kate Hunter said there was a press release also on her twitter.
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