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Flanders
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:32 am

Sunline wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:22 am
Flanders wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:46 pm
A few years ago, another stallion was slaughtered for meat. The article at the time said the stallion was very nice so wasn't aggressive when the person(people) went into his field at night. I feel bad for not being able to remember his name.... I *think* he was a Giant's Causeway son but I may be wrong. I'm pretty sure it was somewhere in South America too but not being able to remember his name is really hampering my searching.
I saw some people on twitter and facebook talking about that stallion and the name is Drilling for Oil
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ad-in-peru
Wow it didn't feel like 10 years ago... No wonder I was having a hard time finding anything, thank you for finding his name. They specifically went after the stallion at that farm too. The two farms also are pretty close together I'm guessing 15-20 minute drive, going off the towns they have listed.
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:02 pm

It was reported on Racing Post, the stallions in Peru were hacked to death with axes for their meat. Am going to go throw up now.
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:00 pm

Ziggypop wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:02 pm
It was reported on Racing Post, the stallions in Peru were hacked to death with axes for their meat. Am going to go throw up now.
I hope the monsters get the justice they deserve...the kind of justice that isn't doled out in a court room.
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:21 pm

What sort of economic state is Peru in?

Hungry, desperate people do desperate things but this is something I would expect to happen to a stud farm in Venezuela.

Again this was really...daring. I feel like someone who was doing this to feed a family wouldn't do something so public. They would try to steal/lure away a random horse from a pasture.
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:16 pm

Mylute wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:21 pm
What sort of economic state is Peru in?

Hungry, desperate people do desperate things but this is something I would expect to happen to a stud farm in Venezuela.

Again this was really...daring. I feel like someone who was doing this to feed a family wouldn't do something so public. They would try to steal/lure away a random horse from a pasture.
We don't know the killers motives so we can only speculate. My guesses are it was deemed a payback or a hit but they did it in this fashion to really throw the authorities off the trail, a rival taking out the vast majority of their competitors stallions or its some group thinking the meat is a panacea that a well bred, well fed stallion has some miracle curing properties, kind of like how they eat tiger genitals and rhino horns, etc.
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:50 pm

Sorry to distract from the Peru conversation (I can’t stomach it enough to discuss it), but I’m curious:

Amongst the top stallions (Tapit, War Front, Medaglia d’Oro, Curlin, Uncle Mo, etc) who do you think constantly gets *the* best books? I would think War Front, but lately it seems like Into Mischief is getting some really stellar mares. And AP had his fantastic first book and I wonder if the quality stayed the same?
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:33 pm

KatieK101 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:50 pm
Sorry to distract from the Peru conversation (I can’t stomach it enough to discuss it), but I’m curious:

Amongst the top stallions (Tapit, War Front, Medaglia d’Oro, Curlin, Uncle Mo, etc) who do you think constantly gets *the* best books? I would think War Front, but lately it seems like Into Mischief is getting some really stellar mares. And AP had his fantastic first book and I wonder if the quality stayed the same?
I think its fluctuates a lot year to year and also depends on who the mare has already visited, some breeders do not like to go to the same stallion over and over again. While Into Mischief does get a lot of really nice mares he also breeds nearly 2-3x as many as some of the stallions you mentioned, so that can lead to the overall quality of his book to be lower. It took me like 20 minutes to find the article but there is one out about 2019 quality, though it only lists G1SWs and G1 producers in the stallions books.

I purposefully used War Front vs Into Mischief here because War Front has the lowest mares bred and Into Mischief has the highest. In 2019, War Front covered 81 mares, 12 of which were G1SWs (14.8% of his book) and 10 G1 producers (12.3% of his book). While Into Mischief covered 241 mares, 14 G1SWs (5.8% of his book) and 5 G1 producers (2% of his book).

Of established stallions, Curlin, MDO, Quality Road, Tapit, Uncle Mo, War Front had fairly comparable numbers. Though Justify was far and away the leader of the 2019 books. AP's book was still strong for a stallion who hadn't had runners at that point.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... mares-bred

I think we'll see these stallions all getting about even splits year to year if they continue to produce how they do. I would have to imagine some breeders shy from Into Mischief and go to a limited book stallion because a limited book means less competition at the sales from foals by the same sire.
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:42 pm

Mylute wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:21 pm
What sort of economic state is Peru in?

Hungry, desperate people do desperate things but this is something I would expect to happen to a stud farm in Venezuela.

Again this was really...daring. I feel like someone who was doing this to feed a family wouldn't do something so public. They would try to steal/lure away a random horse from a pasture.
Excuse me, it's not theme of economy. Most people think that it has been a revenge, I'm included. A few years ago the same thing happened with another horse, Drilling For Oil. People here are devastated with this. Here we take care of a little we have, but there are always undesirable people who harm us. Peru has only 600 or 700 foals every year but we won many races of international level.
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:02 pm

Pferd wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:42 pm
Excuse me, it's not theme of economy. Most people think that it has been a revenge, I'm included. A few years ago the same thing happened with another horse, Drilling For Oil. People here are devastated with this. Here we take care of a little we have, but there are always undesirable people who harm us. Peru has only 600 or 700 foals every year but we won many races of international level.
I know very little about Peru, but my inclination is towards revenge as well. If you were going to kill and hack up several horses just for meat, why would you choose a high-profile stud farm with a night watchman?
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Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:43 am

I found this article really interesting. It has the stallions that had 50%+ of runners in Great Britain and Ireland that achieved a Racing Post Rating of 80+. The article says a RPR of 80 is about what it takes to win a maiden or novice stakes of fair quality. It shows what a mistake it was to give up on Declaration of War. Also it appears Dubawi has gotten a standout stallion in Night of Thunder. Even though his first crop is only 2, he has a incredibly high % of runners with a rating of 80+ and also not mentioned is that he has 7 SWs from his first crop.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... in-ireland
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Starine wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:02 pm
Pferd wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:42 pm
Excuse me, it's not theme of economy. Most people think that it has been a revenge, I'm included. A few years ago the same thing happened with another horse, Drilling For Oil. People here are devastated with this. Here we take care of a little we have, but there are always undesirable people who harm us. Peru has only 600 or 700 foals every year but we won many races of international level.
I know very little about Peru, but my inclination is towards revenge as well. If you were going to kill and hack up several horses just for meat, why would you choose a high-profile stud farm with a night watchman?
Exactly, the same I believe. Look that the mares were free while the stallions were in their boxes. Police are investigating and don't discard some other reason for the killing. Barlovento's owner says that the farm will be closed. Sad notice for us, so great, great farm.
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Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:10 am

It's so tragic. I offer my condolences to you and all Peruvian racing fans for the murder of those beautiful stallions, as well as apparently losing an historic breeding farm.
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Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:13 pm

Ruler of the World has moved to Haras de Bouquetot in France.
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Rey de Oro (H5 King Kamehameha - La Dorada by Symboli Kris S) is retired from racing and standing at Shadai Stallion Station in Hokkaido.

He won the GⅠ Japanese Derby in 2017 and the GⅠ Tenno Sho in 2018.

His 2nd dam Lady Blond is a half sister to Deep Impact and Black Tide.
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Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:06 pm

Pferd wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:39 pm
Starine wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:02 pm
Pferd wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:42 pm
Excuse me, it's not theme of economy. Most people think that it has been a revenge, I'm included. A few years ago the same thing happened with another horse, Drilling For Oil. People here are devastated with this. Here we take care of a little we have, but there are always undesirable people who harm us. Peru has only 600 or 700 foals every year but we won many races of international level.
I know very little about Peru, but my inclination is towards revenge as well. If you were going to kill and hack up several horses just for meat, why would you choose a high-profile stud farm with a night watchman?
Exactly, the same I believe. Look that the mares were free while the stallions were in their boxes. Police are investigating and don't discard some other reason for the killing. Barlovento's owner says that the farm will be closed. Sad notice for us, so great, great farm.
One of the first reports I read said that the stallions killed were out for the night, the other stallions were in the barn. I have no idea what is true in this case.
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katmandu wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:06 pm
Pferd wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:39 pm
Starine wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:02 pm


I know very little about Peru, but my inclination is towards revenge as well. If you were going to kill and hack up several horses just for meat, why would you choose a high-profile stud farm with a night watchman?
Exactly, the same I believe. Look that the mares were free while the stallions were in their boxes. Police are investigating and don't discard some other reason for the killing. Barlovento's owner says that the farm will be closed. Sad notice for us, so great, great farm.
One of the first reports I read said that the stallions killed were out for the night, the other stallions were in the barn. I have no idea what is true in this case.
The stallions were in their boxes. A truck entered in the farm with 8 criminals, took them out and needed 11 hours to tear them apart and take into the truck. Believe also irresponsability of the owners, poor security suppose. Barlovento brought in 1998 also for shuttling to You And I, cause he is son of peruvian mare La Chaposa. Also Street Hero, Forty Tales, Southern Rhythm, Shuailaan. And in 2016 they were waiting the arrive of Willcox Inn, but the stallion died days before.
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Wed Dec 25, 2019 11:16 pm

Just checked sunset/sunrise in Lima, Peru these days, there's 13 hours of daylight. Perhaps that is what saved the other stallions. . .
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Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:11 pm

Haras Barlovento is closing after 70 years.
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... des/415314
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Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:38 am

2017 Tokyo Yushun winner Rey de Oro(JPN), 2014H. King Kamehameha(JPN) x La Dorada(JPN) by Symboli Kris S(USA), arrived at Shadai Stallion Station on Dec 28th 2019.
He will stand for a fee of JPY 6,000,000. next year.

https://blog.goo.ne.jp/umaichi_news/e/1 ... 933acbbd28

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https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001189721/

-- full list of Shadai Stallions in order of 2020 Stud Fees:

Stud Fee 2020 (in JPY) : Sire Name (Sire of Sire)

20,000,000 : Lord Kanaloa(JPN) (King Kamehameha)
10,000,000 : Heart's Cry(JPN) (Sunday Silence)
7,000,000 : Duramente(JPN) (King Kamehameha)
6,000,000 : Bricks and Mortar(USA) (Giant's Causeway)
6,000,000 : Daiwa Major(JPN) (Sunday Silence)
6,000,000 : Harbinger(GB) (Dansili)
6,000,000 : Kizuna(JPN) (Deep Impact)
6,000,000 : Rey de Oro(JPN) (King Kamehameha)
6,000,000 : Rulership (King Kamehameha)
5,000,000 : Epiphaneia(JPN) (Symboli Kris S)
4,000,000 : Just a Way(JPN) (Heart's Cry)
4,000,000 : Kitasan Black(JPN) (Black Tide)
4,000,000 : Maurice(JPN) (Screen Hero)
3,000,000 : Drefong(USA) (Gio Ponti)
3,000,000 : New Year's Day(USA) (Street Cry)
3,000,000 : Orfevre(JPN) (Stay Gold)
3,000,000 : Satono Diamond(JPN) (Deep Impact)
2,500,000 : Kinshasa no Kiseki(AUS) (Fuji Kiseki)
2,500,000 : Real Steel(JPN) (Deep Impact)
2,000,000 : Mind Your Biscuits(USA) (Posse)
2,000,000 : Real Impact(JPN) (Deep Impact)
1,500,000 : Isla Bonita(JPN) (Fuji Kiseki)
1,500,000 : Mikki Isle(JPN) (Deep Impact)
1,500,000 : Novellist(IRE) (Monsun)
1,500,000 : Satono Crown(JPN) (Marju)
1,000,000 : Satono Aladdin(JPN) (Deep Impact)
800,000 : Logotype(JPN) (Lohengrin)
800,000 : Red Falx(JPN) (Swept Overboard)
500,000 : Reach the Crown(JPN) (Special Week)

private : Dream Journey(JPN) (Stay Gold)
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