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Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 2:56 pm
by carole
Did anyone catch the NBCSN piece on the Santa Anita deaths? Jerry Bailey was VERY critical of the whip, said it looks terrible when a horse is being whipped. One of the co hosts said to Bailey ‘You wouldn’t have said that back when you were riding’ and Bailey responded with ‘Of course not but times are changing’ or something to that extent anyway. Any thoughts on that?

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 2:58 pm
by carole
Oh I see, my stream is behind. They’ve just played that piece again on NBC

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:03 pm
by Mylute
IIRC Mitole is the first favorite to win today.

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:11 pm
by Somnambulist
carole wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 2:56 pm
Did anyone catch the NBCSN piece on the Santa Anita deaths? Jerry Bailey was VERY critical of the whip, said it looks terrible when a horse is being whipped. One of the co hosts said to Bailey ‘You wouldn’t have said that back when you were riding’ and Bailey responded with ‘Of course not but times are changing’ or something to that extent anyway. Any thoughts on that?
I'm not sure why NBC decided to go into this on the sports' biggest day.

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:18 pm
by Mylute
Maybe they figured if they didn't they get a sh*tstorm from the antis about how they're "ignoring it!!!"

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:25 pm
by Tessablue
I think it would have been pretty glaring if they hadn't addressed it at all. I hope this is the last time we hear about it, however. They gave it it's due and now it's time to focus on celebrating the present.

Maximum Security is still technically favored, but Improbable is catching up as more money pours in. About 100k separating them right now.

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:45 pm
by Mylute
Digital Age is impressive.

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:48 pm
by Somnambulist
Tessablue wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 3:25 pm
I think it would have been pretty glaring if they hadn't addressed it at all. I hope this is the last time we hear about it, however. They gave it it's due and now it's time to focus on celebrating the present.

Maximum Security is still technically favored, but Improbable is catching up as more money pours in. About 100k separating them right now.
NBC doesn't address CTE in their NFL broadcasts. They don't about players who beat their wives. I don't hear them talk about problem soccer players when my boyfriend watches soccer. They just talk about the sport.

Not only that, you have Bailey's extraordinarily damning of whips. I'm not saying he isn't allowed an opinion but as an ambassador of the sport you know that the public will never educate itself on the topic. How do you possibly even say this on national tv?

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:50 pm
by Somnambulist
The great 2009 Derby. This is, without a trace of sarcasm, my favorite Derby ever.

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:54 pm
by Miss Woodford
Mine That Bird looks good in Western tack.

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:55 pm
by Ingrid
Somnambulist wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 3:50 pm
The great 2009 Derby. This is, without a trace of sarcasm, my favorite Derby ever.
So fun and crazy! I love watching that close up of Borel’s boot literally scraping against the tail. I can’t find it on YouTube.

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:58 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
The turf races I've watched so far haven't been good for front runners, even when they are very good runners. Closers are closing the deal. ;)

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:02 pm
by Tessablue
Somnambulist wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 3:48 pm
NBC doesn't address CTE in their NFL broadcasts. They don't about players who beat their wives. I don't hear them talk about problem soccer players when my boyfriend watches soccer. They just talk about the sport.

Not only that, you have Bailey's extraordinarily damning of whips. I'm not saying he isn't allowed an opinion but as an ambassador of the sport you know that the public will never educate itself on the topic. How do you possibly even say this on national tv?
Do those awful No More commercials count? I do think racing is held, fairly or not, to a different public standard, so I don't mind their attempt to address it as long as it focuses more on the present from this point forward. Fully agree that Bailey's comments were not helpful, but I thought the Layden piece was pretty good.

I was not expecting a Mine that Bird retrospective. Loved seeing him!

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:12 pm
by Mylute
What do you mean by "no more" commercials?

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:13 pm
by luvsgeldings
awwww mine that bird - one of my most favorite geldings ever - so happy they did a piece about him today on his 10th anniversary of winning the Derby.

sincerely, I think his run in that Derby was one of the greatest performances ever by a horse winning the Kentucky Derby. and when you use the term 'blew the doors' off of horses in a race... that's exactly what he did in his Derby win. his gallop out after was even impressive.


just an amazing run by a brave little horse - and he ran pretty damn well in the Preakness and Belmont too.

so great to see him again - and its really nice they took him to Sunland Park today so people can get up close to a Kentucky Derby winner. love it. love him.

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:19 pm
by Somnambulist
Mylute wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 4:12 pm
What do you mean by "no more" commercials?
I'm not sure it's on the air anymore, but after the Ray Rice fiasco (which the NFL only cared about after video was released to the public) several big-name players got together to make a commercial about domestic violence.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/10/no-mor ... anning-nfl

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:21 pm
by Mylute
Somnambulist wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 4:19 pm
Mylute wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 4:12 pm
What do you mean by "no more" commercials?
I'm not sure it's on the air anymore, but after the Ray Rice fiasco (which the NFL only cared about after video was released to the public) several big-name players got together to make a commercial about domestic violence.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/10/no-mor ... anning-nfl
Oh, Ok. I know absolutely 0 about the NFL other than they've been acting afool for the last decade.

College football is better.

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:21 pm
by Miss Woodford
Andi'amu won the VA Gold Cup in a minor upset. They let him set a slooooooow pace on the front end and he led most of the 4 miles.

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:22 pm
by Tessablue
Somnambulist wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 4:19 pm
Mylute wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 4:12 pm
What do you mean by "no more" commercials?
I'm not sure it's on the air anymore, but after the Ray Rice fiasco (which the NFL only cared about after video was released to the public) several big-name players got together to make a commercial about domestic violence.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/10/no-mor ... anning-nfl
Yep. To my memory, reactions were mixed at best, but in the wake of all of the league's denial and floundering it really didn't land.

Now they wear pink gloves for some games, so everything is fine ;)

The Mr. Money/ Mr Money Bags box is completely irresistable right now.

Re: Derby Day Undercard

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:26 pm
by TapitsGal
what happened to scratch market king from the pat day mile?