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2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 3:00 pm
by Treve
A fair few familiar faces in here :)

Friday, May 19th
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... co-special

Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Pimlico Race Course, Friday, May 19, 2017, Race 7
1 3/16mDirt $300,0003 yo's & up2:39 PM (local)
PP Horse Jockey Wgt Trainer M/L
1 Dolphus (KY) Rajiv Maragh 118 James A. Jerkens
2 Eagle (KY) John R. Velazquez 118 Neil J. Howard
3 Watershed (KY) Paco Lopez 120 Kiaran P. McLaughlin
4 Discreet Lover (FL) Jose Luis Flores 118 Uriah St. Lewis
5 Noble Bird (KY) Julien R. Leparoux 118 Mark E. Casse
6 Shaman Ghost (ON) Javier Castellano 124 James A. Jerkens
7 Name Changer (KY) Jevian Toledo 118 Alan E. Goldberg
8 Bodhisattva (CA) Xavier Perez 118 Jose Corrales
9 Conquest Windycity (KY) Luis Saez 118 Brendan P. Walsh
10 Fellowship (FL) Joel Rosario 118 Kenneth Decker

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 3:13 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Nice field. It will be interesting to compare the times of this race and the Preakness, since they're at the same distance. One might expect the older horses to put up a faster time, but...man, Always Dreaming is a really fast colt. ;) :P

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 3:21 pm
by Treve
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Nice field. It will be interesting to compare the times of this race and the Preakness, since they're at the same distance. One might expect the older horses to put up a faster time, but...man, Always Dreaming is a really fast colt. ;) :P
They're on different days though, so I think it'll be harder to compare than if they were on the same card.
I concur though, it's a rather nice field for a G3. Hoping everyone has a safe trip home.

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:00 pm
by Prairie Bayou
I'm so hoping one day this will be back at Gr.1 status. It drew some really good horses in the past. This is one of the better fields we've seen in a while. I'm rooting for Noble Bird. But I also like Shaman Ghost and Bodhisattva.

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 11:03 pm
by Miss Woodford
Where are all these random Conquest horses coming from and why are we only seeing them this year (at least it seems like)?

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 11:41 pm
by BlindLucky
Miss Woodford wrote:Where are all these random Conquest horses coming from and why are we only seeing them this year (at least it seems like)?
Conquest dispersed all of their stock last November and they had a TON of horses, so I think they've just been spread out all over the place with different trainers now.

Conquest Windycity has been around for a while, but he used to be with Casse. He was stakes placed last year on the Preakness undercard, so I guess the new owners decided to give this a shot.

(I always got them all confused with each other--Conquest This, Conquest That, Conquest So and So--they were hard to keep straight.)

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 7:44 pm
by Northport
There's been 100+ of them around for at least 3 years. Most of them stuck to Woodbine and California, except for the top performers, now that they've been dispersed, they're literally everywhere.

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 9:35 pm
by Starine
Hard to imagine anyone upsetting Shaman Ghost but I do like Watershed and the fact that the horse he beat in the Ben Ali, Bird Song, came back to take the Alysheba.

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 10:10 pm
by Izvestia
Rooting for Shaman Ghost, and little Eagle who runs hard every time!

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:40 am
by blamethewinner
Starine wrote:Hard to imagine anyone upsetting Shaman Ghost but I do like Watershed and the fact that the horse he beat in the Ben Ali, Bird Song, came back to take the Alysheba.
Just FYI, Bird Song rode one of the most pronounced inside biases you'll ever find winning the Alysheba.

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:29 am
by stark
Casse saying NOBLE BIRD will scratch.

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:57 am
by peeptoad
stark wrote:Casse saying NOBLE BIRD will scratch.
confirmed: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... co-special

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 1:40 pm
by Izvestia
It's about bloody time this horse had a break, he hasn't been himself since October.

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 2:47 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Shaman Ghost earned that win...and justified his odds.
Got to give some props to Dolphus, who went to the front and nearly pulled off the upset. Rachel's little half brother has developed into a real graded stakes horse this year.

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 3:59 pm
by Izvestia
Shaman Ghost isn't going to wow you with his dazzle, but he sure is a consistent, hard-knocking boy. I am a fanatic of his.

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:02 pm
by Treve
Izvestia wrote:Shaman Ghost isn't going to wow you with his dazzle, but he sure is a consistent, hard-knocking boy. I am a fanatic of his.
Castellano saying he reminds him of Ghostzapper is high praise. Really love Shaman Ghost, just checked BH to get an update and was very happy to see he got another graded score.

Re: 2017 Pimlico Special H. (G3)

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 10:53 pm
by Starine
Mike Watchmaker's thoughts on the race:
Anyone with an appreciation of racing’s history knows that the Pimlico Special has a storied one. Unfortunately, the race isn’t what it used to be. And yet I can’t help but think the Pimlico Special could be reborn with a new, carefully chosen spot on the calendar other than mid-May, even if it meant weakening the Black-Eyed Susan card (and yes, I’m aware that it might be a little awkward running the Pimlico Special at, say, Laurel, but seeing a once-great race diminished is worse).

But the Pimlico Special still has a name that carries some weight, and with a game victory in Friday’s renewal, Shaman Ghost added that name to a career résumé that’s really quite astounding. Think about some of the races Shaman Ghost has won. He took the Queen’s Plate, the Brooklyn, the Woodward, the Santa Anita Handicap, and now the Pimlico Special, and he’s not done yet. Shaman Ghost isn’t a Hall of Famer. He’s a good, hard-knocking handicap horse who should only engender admiration. But there are some horses in the Hall of Fame who do not have the CV he does.
http://www.drf.com/news/watchmaker-dont ... akness-win