Fox Hill not happy with Churchill Downs

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Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:09 pm

This seems...ridiculous, to be honest. What's wrong with giving the owners of stakes horses free seats? Or, frankly -- do they not even get GA tickets? Very baffled by the idea.
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil? Well, I should say!
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Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:10 pm

Is anybody?
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Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:11 pm

dustino140 wrote:Is anybody?
Word thief.
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Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:14 pm

Churchill management IS NOT interested in promoting racing - they want their money and the owners, fans, bettors - be damned - I am so perplexed by their actions and angered by them = YOU or ME as a fan = cannot afford a good seat at the Derby - okay - but owners who have entered - cannot get in??? COME ON this is ABSURD
May they run with the WIND
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Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:25 pm

Dusty wrote:Churchill management IS NOT interested in promoting racing - they want their money and the owners, fans, bettors - be damned - I am so perplexed by their actions and angered by them = YOU or ME as a fan = cannot afford a good seat at the Derby - okay - but owners who have entered - cannot get in??? COME ON this is ABSURD
I hear the stakeholders prefer Charmin. That does cost more you know.

A shame they have the Derby.
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Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:26 pm

Craig Brogden @machmerhallfarm
@Fox_Hill_Farm @foxhillfarm the same treatment for the breeders of the 20 Derby runners. Buy your own tickets and no paddock passes.

https://twitter.com/machmerhallfarm
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Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:54 pm

With Anticipation wrote:Craig Brogden @machmerhallfarm
@Fox_Hill_Farm @foxhillfarm the same treatment for the breeders of the 20 Derby runners. Buy your own tickets and no paddock passes.

https://twitter.com/machmerhallfarm
Craig tweeted later that last year they were in the walkover -- and then were physically stopped by security from entering the paddock with the horse. That has to be annoying.
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Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:53 pm

With Anticipation wrote:Craig Brogden @machmerhallfarm
@Fox_Hill_Farm @foxhillfarm the same treatment for the breeders of the 20 Derby runners. Buy your own tickets and no paddock passes.

https://twitter.com/machmerhallfarm

And what reasoning is behind this? Very disppointing and disturbing - WHO and WHAT is Churchill Downs today?? The answer is depressing..
May they run with the WIND
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Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:06 am

Playing devil's advocate here ... If the breeder isn't part of the horse's current ownership, why should he/she/they be allowed in the paddock? Seats, maybe, but I can't make a logical case for them being in the paddock unless they still have an ownership stake in the animal. Why stop with the breeder? Why not let the guy who broke the horse into the paddock? How about the truck driver who took the horse to auction? The auctioneer? These people all were connected to the horse at some point in his life, but no longer.
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Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:26 am

second_glance wrote:
With Anticipation wrote:Craig Brogden @machmerhallfarm
@Fox_Hill_Farm @foxhillfarm the same treatment for the breeders of the 20 Derby runners. Buy your own tickets and no paddock passes.

https://twitter.com/machmerhallfarm
Craig tweeted later that last year they were in the walkover -- and then were physically stopped by security from entering the paddock with the horse. That has to be annoying.
I can understand why they don't let everyone into the paddock. I mean, you have to draw the line somewhere. Churchill's paddock is not very big, and it's probably a sardine can in there before the Derby. Still, they should've been told ahead of time, and I sure hope they had seats.

But, reading Rick's letter, I'm gonna guess...not. Ugh.
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Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:16 am

harvestmoon wrote:I can understand why they don't let everyone into the paddock. I mean, you have to draw the line somewhere. Churchill's paddock is not very big, and it's probably a sardine can in there before the Derby. Still, they should've been told ahead of time, and I sure hope they had seats.
I think it is fine that breeders are not allowed in the paddock if the only people in the paddock are the horse's current ownership connections, but lets face it, Churchill Downs needs room in the paddock to invite every two-bit, used to be marginally famous boy band member, but now just a middle aged tool wearing a fedora into the paddock.
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Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:48 am

WaquoitNBroadBrush wrote:Playing devil's advocate here ... If the breeder isn't part of the horse's current ownership, why should he/she/they be allowed in the paddock? Seats, maybe, but I can't make a logical case for them being in the paddock unless they still have an ownership stake in the animal. Why stop with the breeder? Why not let the guy who broke the horse into the paddock? How about the truck driver who took the horse to auction? The auctioneer? These people all were connected to the horse at some point in his life, but no longer.
Yes, but if the breeders are the guests of the current connections, they SHOULD be allowed paddock access.
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Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:29 pm

What a revolting development this is. I feel very sorry for the owners who would like to see their horses run.

I have to ask...are owners allowed in the winner's circle if they win? I can see it now. Horse ABC wins a race, but oh, by the way, his owner isn't here to receive the trophy because Churchill wouldn't let him on the track. Oops!! :shock:
I found my sneakers!
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Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:29 pm

I've hated Churchill Downs before it was fashionable to hate the. Bunch of thieving money grubbers.
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The negative opinion is shared by others.
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:59 am

Letter from Ron Turcotte to Rick Porter on how CDI has treated him of late. [Spoiler: not well]

http://foxhillfarmstable.com/2014/04/30 ... of-racing/
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:25 am

second_glance wrote:Letter from Ron Turcotte to Rick Porter on how CDI has treated him of late. [Spoiler: not well]

http://foxhillfarmstable.com/2014/04/30 ... of-racing/
And so, with Keeneland going back to dirt, what's the odds of getting the Kentucky Derby shifted to Keeneland?
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Catalina wrote:
second_glance wrote:Letter from Ron Turcotte to Rick Porter on how CDI has treated him of late. [Spoiler: not well]

http://foxhillfarmstable.com/2014/04/30 ... of-racing/
And so, with Keeneland going back to dirt, what's the odds of getting the Kentucky Derby shifted to Keeneland?
Zilch. It's CD's race.
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Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:45 am

second_glance wrote:Letter from Ron Turcotte to Rick Porter on how CDI has treated him of late. [Spoiler: not well]

http://foxhillfarmstable.com/2014/04/30 ... of-racing/
WOW! Talk about disheartening. Why don't people get some horse manure (a small truckload)
and put it in the CEO's Parking spot at home and at the track and put a sign it "YOUR ACTIONS STINK"
If I lived in Kentucky I lobby the state to buy Churchill Downs and own and operate it like the Green Bay packers.
No one has ever bet enough on a winning horse.
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