2018 Keeneland September Yearling Sale

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Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:08 pm

Interesting question........Commercial sales market is starting to see the value in Kitten's Joy as a stallion? Right as Mr. Ramsey exits and fee with H&D is a more reasonable $60,000......or BECAUSE he's no longer going to be flooding the market with his offspring to cheap mares?

EDIT TO ADD : Roaring Lion's success across the pond might have elevated his interest a bit as well!
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There’s a Kitten’s Joy x Awesome Flower filly in the catalogue. Wonder what she’ll go for. I’d buy.
$85,000. Brookdale bought her. (Session 5).

A Kitten's Joy x Love Train colt went to Martin Anthony for $450,000. Love Train is by Tapit, from the family of Starfish Bay.
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:50 pm

Hip 1002 c. Malibu Moon x Hillaby (family of Sealy Hill), $300K

Hip 1003 c. Honor Code x Hishi Aspen (half to Sassicaia), $275K

Hip 1010 c. Bernardini x Hot Dixie Chick (family of Always Dreaming), $210K*

Hip 1055 f. Pioneerof the Nile x Live for Now (family of Point Given), $700K

Hip 1066 c. Giant's Causeway x Maggy's Melody (family of Alfeet Alex), $500K

Hip 1092 c. Carpe Diem x Mons Venus (half to Pavel, Caracortado, Hell Pay), $460K

*Headed to Japan
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:23 pm

Mylute wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:29 pm
Mylute wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:55 pm
There’s a Kitten’s Joy x Awesome Flower filly in the catalogue. Wonder what she’ll go for. I’d buy.
$85,000. Brookdale bought her. (Session 5).

A Kitten's Joy x Love Train colt went to Martin Anthony for $450,000. Love Train is by Tapit, from the family of Starfish Bay.
Three of his colts have gone for $700,000, $625,000 and the $450,000 above. One filly also went for $650,000 who is out of a mare that has thrown a lot of blacky type with this stallion.

And 'Martin Anthony' is a D. Ingordo pseudonym, so the colt today could be going to anybody.
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Horsebagger wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:23 pm
Mylute wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:29 pm
Mylute wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:55 pm
There’s a Kitten’s Joy x Awesome Flower filly in the catalogue. Wonder what she’ll go for. I’d buy.
$85,000. Brookdale bought her. (Session 5).

A Kitten's Joy x Love Train colt went to Martin Anthony for $450,000. Love Train is by Tapit, from the family of Starfish Bay.
Three of his colts have gone for $700,000, $625,000 and the $450,000 above. One filly also went for $650,000 who is out of a mare that has thrown a lot of blacky type with this stallion.

And 'Martin Anthony' is a D. Ingordo pseudonym, so the colt today could be going to anybody.
Oh yeah, forgot. Thanks!
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:58 pm

Horsebagger wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:23 pm
Three of his colts have gone for $700,000, $625,000 and the $450,000 above. One filly also went for $650,000 who is out of a mare that has thrown a lot of blacky type with this stallion.

And 'Martin Anthony' is a D. Ingordo pseudonym, so the colt today could be going to anybody.
Goodness, I didn't know that. He's been signing for a horse or two in lots of sales lately and I've wondered about his identity. Thanks for the new knowledge.
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Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:33 pm

Just popped on and was looking through recent results.

The Declaration of Wars are really bombing late in the sale.....one sold for $4000, another sold for $5000, and another for $17,000.
Either he bred some poor mares or they're awfully unfortunate looking....
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Zayat went to $800,000 for an American Pharoah, #1558, and there is a photo of the colt on the linked Bloodhorse article. He looks JUST like his sire - the shape of the head, the coloring, the expression in the eyes, the ears. In what you can see of him, he's a duplicate of his dad. :D
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... aroah-colt
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Phoenix Thoroughbreds and Ron Winchell went to $875K for Creator’s half-brother by Uncle Mo.

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... september/
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:47 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:49 pm
Zayat went to $800,000 for an American Pharoah, #1558, and there is a photo of the colt on the linked Bloodhorse article. He looks JUST like his sire - the shape of the head, the coloring, the expression in the eyes, the ears. In what you can see of him, he's a duplicate of his dad. :D
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... aroah-colt
$800,000 for a colt that has already had colic surgery :shock: In the showjumping world, colic surgery = resale value is gone. Must be one heck of a nice colt.
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The article said "...he had a colic surgery as a foal." I presume that it's been a year or longer since that surgery and he is completely healed.
I'm also under the impression that surgery on foals is not as serious as on an adult, since babies heal fast if they're healthy. Correct me if I'm mistaken. :?
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The article said "...he had a colic surgery as a foal." I presume that it's been a year or longer since that surgery and he is completely healed.
I'm also under the impression that surgery on foals is not as serious as on an adult, since babies heal fast if they're healthy. Correct me if I'm mistaken. :?
I feel like that would be the case. I know having your tonsils out as a child or young teen is better than having them out as an adult for that reason (example), so it would make sense if it were the same for animals.
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:35 pm

Only thing I worry about is he’s most likely to get colic again and again. I was told that horses that have colic surgery will most likely get more colic episodes.
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:41 pm

As soon as you cut into a horse's intestine to remove an impaction or perform a resection, the horse is automatically more likely to colic again. Once there is a seam that gets stitched up in the intestine, the scar tissue becomes a 'speedbump' of sorts along the gut, which can lead to another impaction.

If the colt had colic surgery where they just cut into the horse to adjust the position/massage the intestine, that wouldn't be as bad. But, if they cut into the intestine itself, the horse will be at risk for the rest of its life. We won't ever know what kind of surgery this American Pharoah colt had, though.
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Retrospectiv wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:33 pm
Just popped on and was looking through recent results.

The Declaration of Wars are really bombing late in the sale.....one sold for $4000, another sold for $5000, and another for $17,000.
Either he bred some poor mares or they're awfully unfortunate looking....
The Take Charge Indy(s) bombed as well....then all they did was run.
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:03 pm

Anyone know who Spartan Bloodstock buy for or are they pinhookers? My favorite foal from last year just sold to them and I’m trying to figure out who they are.
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:06 pm

Oh, and thanks Northport for explaining in detail about colic surgery issues!
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Northport wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:47 pm
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:49 pm
Zayat went to $800,000 for an American Pharoah, #1558, and there is a photo of the colt on the linked Bloodhorse article. He looks JUST like his sire - the shape of the head, the coloring, the expression in the eyes, the ears. In what you can see of him, he's a duplicate of his dad. :D
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... aroah-colt
$800,000 for a colt that has already had colic surgery :shock: In the showjumping world, colic surgery = resale value is gone. Must be one heck of a nice colt.
Colic Surgery is probably the reason he 'only' went for 800k. Also the reason the consigners decided to put him in Book 2 as opposed to Book 1 since they felt he'd stand out more. Being a half to two time BC champ secret circle out of a stakes winning mare and looking like a clone of his sire, I'm sure he'd have fetched 7 figures but for the colic surgery.
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:37 pm

Northport wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:41 pm
As soon as you cut into a horse's intestine to remove an impaction or perform a resection, the horse is automatically more likely to colic again. Once there is a seam that gets stitched up in the intestine, the scar tissue becomes a 'speedbump' of sorts along the gut, which can lead to another impaction.

If the colt had colic surgery where they just cut into the horse to adjust the position/massage the intestine, that wouldn't be as bad. But, if they cut into the intestine itself, the horse will be at risk for the rest of its life. We won't ever know what kind of surgery this American Pharoah colt had, though.
I had a filly that developed a meconium impaction at three days old that caused her to colic quite badly. She was taken to the a University of Guelph where she as supported with fluids and enemas. In the course of her stay the veterinarian and I obviously had a discussion about the potential for surgery, and I was told that surgery didn't always have a great outcome as the complication of adhesions was high in such young foals - the intestines can form scar tissue that adheres them to the body wall, or other structures within the abdominal cavity. Thankfully my filly recovered with just supportive care and didn't require surgery!
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