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Miss Woodford
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Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:15 pm

Tessablue wrote:They'll probably give him 126, same as Chrome last year, and adjust everyone else slightly downwards. Carrying weight is largely pointless and probably dangerous anyways, may as well keep everyone as happy as possible.
When has weight ever been implicated in a racehorse injury? Arrogate is a big strong horse, he can more than handle >130lbs.
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Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:13 am

Miss Woodford wrote:
Tessablue wrote:They'll probably give him 126, same as Chrome last year, and adjust everyone else slightly downwards. Carrying weight is largely pointless and probably dangerous anyways, may as well keep everyone as happy as possible.
When has weight ever been implicated in a racehorse injury? Arrogate is a big strong horse, he can more than handle >130lbs.
It has here- http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 3303001412. The study is about hunt horses and others around the world have been less conclusive about weight carried, but I'm not certain that there are enough high-weight data to truly gauge the effects on dirt (plus those big observational studies are super difficult to design and analyze). This study also torpedoes the romantic image of the drug-free European racehorse... but I digress.

I honestly don't have much interest or put much stock in weights, and I think the length per pound (or whatever it is) rule is completely preposterous at the standard weight range, but I'd also rather not see good horses endangered out of a need to give a race slightly more intrigue. While I get the appeal of seeing this horse check off more boxes, a decent, respectful weight spread and a race against the clock works for me. Hopefully they are able to find a middleground that keeps everyone relatively happy.
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Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:19 am

I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:24 pm

Arrogate (4-Year-Old Colt
Date: June 18, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 46:80 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 1/63
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Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:31 pm

Here's a brief video of the end of the work... you'd be forgiven for thinking it's the gallop-out. https://twitter.com/camillayakteen/stat ... 8459246592
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Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:31 pm

I can't wait to see what he does the rest of this year
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:00 am

JFC this horse is just... not even sure -what- he is. :shock:
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Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:25 am

I really hope he runs in the San Diego because I made arrangements months ago for a weekend at Del Mar. Arrogate would be quite the bonus!
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Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:10 am

I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
BaroqueAgain1
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Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:32 pm

This horse is so frelling ready to run right now that I wonder if Baffert is going to be able to keep him on the ground for the next four weeks. :lol:
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Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:39 pm

He passed those 2 other workers easily. Wonder if that was by design? I wonder who had the bullet for 6 fur?
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Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:57 pm

It was Home Run Kitten 1:11.80.
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It was Home Run Kitten 1:11.80.
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Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:24 pm

Arrogate (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: July 2, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Six Furlongs
Time: 1.12:60 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 2/9
Point Given
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Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:06 pm

Point Given wrote:Arrogate (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: July 2, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Six Furlongs
Time: 1.12:60 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 2/9
On its face the double-take-worthy run trainer Bob Baffert has been on is impressive enough.

Since the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (G1), the Hall of Fame conditioner has won 14 of the 18 dirt stakes he's entered.

But that recent record is put in the proper context when you consider what he still has loaded in his holster—most notably the gray freight train known as Arrogate.

The four-time group/grade 1 winner and $17-million earner—and arguably the best horse in the world—continued preparations for his first start since his Dubai World Cup Sponsored By Emirates Airline (G1) victory with a six-furlong breeze July 2 at Santa Anita Park.


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... anta-anita
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Squeaky
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Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:18 pm

Maybe Bob wanted a slightly easier work after a fast work last week. I thought maybe he would pass that other worker in the stretch, but seemed in no hurry.. just an easy maintenance breeze- Arro appeared quite relaxed.
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Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:58 pm

He also appeared thicker, more muscular. Does not look like a colt anymore, but more like a mature stallion.
I can understand why Baffert is being very conservative with his star charge's race schedule. Even if we discount Unbridled's Song's rep for not-so-sound offspring, that boy is carrying a lot of weight on those ankles.
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Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:51 am

Arrogate (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: July 8, 2017
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Seven Furlongs
Time: 1.25:60 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 1/2
katmandu
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Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:39 pm

Never seen him take as much "encouragement" as he did this morning, I didn't find it a particularly pleasing work overall.
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Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:44 am

Arrogate gets 1:11 flat for six furlongs. :24, :35 3/5, :47 2/5, :59 1/5. Gallop out to seven furlongs in 1:23 1/5.

!!!!
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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