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Postby middleground » Sun May 28, 2017 7:09 pm

Uncle Mo--- if the inbreeding to Kris S. doesn't bother you. Or maybe Candy Ride or City Zip. And I wouldn't rule out War Front, despite the terrible luck they've had with him. That WF filly was a looker.
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Re: Ziconic

Postby mariasmon » Sun May 28, 2017 7:50 pm

middleground wrote:Uncle Mo--- if the inbreeding to Kris S. doesn't bother you. Or maybe Candy Ride or City Zip. And I wouldn't rule out War Front, despite the terrible luck they've had with him. That WF filly was a looker.


City Zip would be good, but I'd be afraid an Uncle Mo out of that mare would be a Clydesdale.
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Re: Ziconic

Postby Insane Crazy » Sun May 28, 2017 7:52 pm

She nicks an A++ with Ghostzapper. Could he infuse some speed?
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Re: Ziconic

Postby stark » Sun May 28, 2017 7:53 pm

Waaaaay tooooo much attention being paid to the studs when the trainer doesn't train for speed, not ever.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Ziconic

Postby Northport » Sun May 28, 2017 8:15 pm

Insane Crazy wrote:She nicks an A++ with Ghostzapper. Could he infuse some speed?



He had so much speed himself, but he has graded winners over longer distances (Moreno, Shaman Ghost) and sprinters (Starship Truffles, Paulassilverling, Judy the Beauty). IMHO he really can do it all - but I may be the most biased GZ fan ever. He's not getting any younger, I can't believe he is 17, so I would definitely love to see this match.
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Re: Ziconic

Postby Horsebagger » Sun May 28, 2017 8:20 pm

I'm guessing the Mosses would consider it slumming, but Candy Ride might add the speed to her foals they certainly need.
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Re: Ziconic

Postby Miss Woodford » Sun May 28, 2017 8:43 pm

stark wrote:Waaaaay tooooo much attention being paid to the studs when the trainer doesn't train for speed, not ever.

Honestly it seems like he got very lucky with Zenyatta. The way he's training her offspring/sister has just been baffling to me.
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Re: Ziconic

Postby firehorse » Sun May 28, 2017 8:47 pm

Horsebagger wrote:I'm guessing the Mosses would consider it slumming, but Candy Ride might add the speed to her foals they certainly need.


If Candy Ride is slumming, my favorite Fort Larned would really be (well, that and it comes up as D on True Nicks) :cry: Disclaimer: I know nothing about breeding, just loved Fort Larned. After his Breeders Cup Classic win, his riderless 'win' in the Gulfstream Park Handicap was my favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfi3Nesd4Xw
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Re: Ziconic

Postby stark » Sun May 28, 2017 10:33 pm

Miss Woodford wrote:
stark wrote:Waaaaay tooooo much attention being paid to the studs when the trainer doesn't train for speed, not ever.

Honestly it seems like he got very lucky with Zenyatta. The way he's training her offspring/sister has just been baffling to me.


I get it that these are all graded stakes winners, a significant accomplishment for a smaller barn, but off the top of your head how many scream speed?


Zenyatta Mare $7,304,580 Grade 1 Winner Breeders' Cup Classic
Giacomo Horse $2,537,316 Grade 1 Winner Kentucky Derby
Tiago Horse $2,358,270 Grade 1 Winner Santa Anita Derby
Life Is Sweet Mare $1,670,000 Grade 1 Winner Breeders' Cup Ladies' Classic
Manistique Mare $1,311,800 Grade 1 Winner Vanity H.
Hollywood Story Mare $1,171,105 Grade 1 Winner Hollywood Starlet S.
Mr. Commons Horse $940,194 Grade 2 Winner Arcadia S.
Gormley Colt $920,000 Grade 1 Winner Santa Anita Derby
After Market Horse $686,280 Grade 1 Winner Eddie Read H.
Cliquot Gelding $638,260 Grade 3 Winner El Camino Real Derby
Harmonious Mare $625,420 Grade 1 Winner Queen Elizabeth II Challenge Cup S.
Starrer Mare $610,000 Grade 1 Winner Santa Margarita Invitational H.
Proposed Mare $552,600 Grade 2 Winner Milady Breeders' Cup H.
Calkins Road Horse $520,735 N/A N/A
David Copperfield Horse $503,510 Grade 3 Winner Bay Meadows Breeders' Cup H.
Madeo Horse $481,715 Grade 2 Winner Del Mar Derby
Radu Cool Mare $481,618 Grade 2 Winner Chula Vista H.
Blingo Gelding $474,348 Grade 2 Winner San Antonio S.
Stanwyck Mare $474,250 Grade 3 Winner Turnback the Alarm H.
Neko Bay Horse $473,020 Grade 2 Winner San Pasqual H.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Ziconic

Postby BigCountry » Sun May 28, 2017 11:19 pm

Miss Woodford wrote:Breed her to a sprinter or miler. Breeding her to classic horses is only producing plodders.

Distorted Humor. Speightstown.
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