2017 Kentucky Derby News & Notes

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The runner -up in UAE Derby, Epicharis (JPN) will skip Kentucky Derby and may head for Pimlico or Belmont Park....
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Spiral winner Fast and Accurate will be nominated and point to the Derby, per owner Hansen.
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Hence powers to Sunland Derby victory

Calumet Farm’s homebred Hence failed to factor while making his stakes debut in the February 20 Southwest Stakes (G3) at Oaklawn Park, but a change in venue on Sunday saw the Steve Asmussen-trained sophomore romp home an easy winner of the $800,000 Sunland Derby (G3).

http://www.brisnet.com/content/2017/03/ ... y-victory/

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2:02
I'll take the overs!
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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UAE Derby Winner Thunder Snow's connections are finalizing plans to ship him in for the Kentucky Derby, per Churchill Downs PR. Details soon.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

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Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Treve wrote:UAE Derby Winner Thunder Snow's connections are finalizing plans to ship him in for the Kentucky Derby, per Churchill Downs PR. Details soon.
If there is ever a good year for a non US horse to win this, its this year! Very curious to see how he does!
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... -churchill
McCraken arrived at CD yesterday and will return to the track tomorrow.

• Blue Grass fourth-place finisher J Boys Echo returned to trainer Dale Romans' Barn 4 at Churchill Downs following Saturday's race. The Gotham (G3) winner is expected to breeze two or three more times prior to the first Saturday in May.

Other KYD news:
• Hall of Fame trainer Steve Asmussen breezed Sunland Derby (G3) winner Hence and TwinSpires.com Louisiana Derby (G2) third-place finisher Local Hero on Monday at Churchill. Hence, No. 13 on the Road to the Kentucky Derby Leaderboard with 50 points, breezed a half-mile in :47 4/5 while Local Hero, No. 23 with 30 points, breezed a half-mile in :51 4/5 according to the Churchill Downs official clocker.

• Xpressbet Florida Derby (GI) runner-up State of Honor settled in to Mark Casse's Barn 36 on April 7. Casse is scheduled to breeze State of Honor at 6 a.m. April 16.

• Louisiana Derby winner Girvin is on target to breeze April 15 at Churchill Downs' Trackside Training Facility, according to trainer Joe Sharp. Sharp said Hall of Fame jockey Mike Smith has picked up the Kentucky Derby mount on Girvin after regular rider Hernandez Jr. opted to stick with McCraken.

• Jack Cincinnati Casino Spiral Stakes (G3) upset-winner Fast and Accurate is stabled in Mike Maker's Barn K at Trackside. The 3-year-old colt is scheduled for a workout April 15.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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We are proud to announce that @jjcjockey [Javier Castellano] will ride @gunnevera for @ASanoRacing in the 143th @KentuckyDerby on May 6th at @ChurchillDowns
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TFUS for all the Derby preps
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A filly named Ruffian...

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Kincsem nevű kanca...


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Trainer Miguel Hernandez says owner Tom McKenna will make decision Tuesday whether to pay the $200K to get Conquest Mo Money into the Derby.

Conquest Mo Money's Connections Pondering Derby Run
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Derby works today: Battle of Midway (4F, :48 2/5) & Royal Mo (3F, :41 3/5). Royal Mo won't go on work tab, but not abnormal Shirreffs move.

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It's notable that Gary Stevens was aboard Royal Mo today. Shirreffs said Stevens wanted to "get to know him" better.
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I wish Royal Mo was closer to an entry in the gate. Looks like he won't make it.
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Paradise Woods, Lady Eli, Songbird, Ziconic
Gormley, Royal Mo, Shaman Ghost, Constellation

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State of Honor also worked a half mile in :49.80 under exercise rider E.J. Bowler, with splits in :12 and :24 2/5 and a gallop out for five furlongs in 1:02.
Per Casse it was supposed to be an easy laid back move, since he ran just recently, and would do more next week.
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Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Steve Byk Retweeted TwinSpires.com
Excellent Derby pecking order summary by @GallantFox1930..

Kentucky Derby bubble horses await Thunder Snow, Conquest Mo Money decisions
http://www.twinspires.com/blog/2017/4/1 ... -decisions
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Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:06 pm

Hence was feeling his oats this morning.
5 f in 1:00.40. 1/16
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Trainer Chad Brown on Monday said he is “leaning towards passing” the Kentucky Derby with Cloud Computing, a decision that has implications regarding the potential field for the May 6 Derby at Churchill Downs.

http://www.drf.com/news/cloud-computing ... ucky-derby
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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imho that's a wise move re: Cloud Computing. It would be asking a hell of a lot considering his lack of foundation and he's still eligible for far easier spots.
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Classic Empire: Per Norman Casse (via the courier-journal), "The horse came out of the race in really good order and had a pretty unremarkable trip here from Arkansas this morning. He seems very happy, and we're all very happy."
The colt will get a few days off before getting back to galloping later this week and is expected at this point in time, to have his final workout before the Kentucky Derby on April 28 or 29.
Casse added that he's confident the Arkansas Derby didn't take too much out of Classic Empire.
"Going back to the test barn and watching him cool out, he did not seem tired," Casse said. "I think we are going to bring over a fresh, healthy horse."

J Boys Echo: worked this morning at Churchill for the first time since the Blue Grass. He recorded a half-mile move in :49 1/5 for trainer Dale Romans. The 3-year-old Mineshaft colt, who won the March 4 Gotham Stakes (G3) at Aqueduct Racetrack, began his workout at the three-furlong pole under Tammy Fox and recorded splits of :12 1/5, :24 3/5 and :36 4/5.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sp ... 100544384/
Churchill Downs oddsmaker Mike Battaglia saw enough from Classic Empire in Saturday’s Arkansas Derby that he’s prepared to make him the favorite for the May 6 Kentucky Derby at Churchill Downs.

“I was really impressed with the way Classic Empire was able to come back like he did in a 12-horse field and run such an awesome race,” Battaglia said. “I think he’ll be cranked up for the Derby. I think he will be the favorite.”
" I [still] think he has more talent than all of them. For his first race at a mile and an eighth, he did everything good horses do.”

Battaglia said Florida Derby winner Always Dreaming and Wood Memorial winner Irish War Cry could be co-second choices for the Kentucky Derby.
“Those two are close,” Battaglia said. “The rest of them, I don’t see it.”
The odds will depend on how they train, and how they're doing by May 3rd after the draw.
Since the points system was instated, the M-L favourite has won every renewal of the Kentucky Derby.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:39 pm

I think it's about time that we have a morning line favorite listed at 5/1, if not higher!

16 Nyquist 3/1
15 American Pharoah 5/2
14 California Chrome 5/2
13 Orb 7/2 actual off odds 5.40-1
12 Bodemeister 4/1
11 Dialed In 4/1
10 Lookin at Lucky 3/1 actual off odds 6.30-1
09 I Want Revenge 3/1
08 Big Brown 3/1
07 Curlin 7/2
06 Brother Derek actual off odds 7.70-1
05 Bellamy Road 5/2
04 The Cliffs Edge 4/1 actual off odds 8.20-1
03 Empire Maker 6/5
02 Harlen Holiday 9/2
01 Point Given 9/5
00 Fusiachi Pegasus 9/5

Can you really say that you could bet with confidence anybody under 5/1 this year?
Value will eventually make somebody look attractive imho.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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McCraken: showed composure before and during his half-mile drill in :47 4/5. After clocking splits of :12 3/5, :24 3/5, and :36 2/5, McCraken galloped out big in 1:00 and 1:13 2/5 while staying glued to the rail.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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