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Re: The Green Monkey

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:12 am
by Catalina

Re: The Green Monkey

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:22 am
by BaroqueAgain1
He really was handsome. You can see why he attracted the attention of the deep-pocketed buyers...although that bidding war created a crazy price scenario that I don't think we'll see again.

Re: The Green Monkey

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:47 am
by sweettalk
i know i'm not alone in saying that he absolutely endeared himself to me, from the wild bidding war, the tin foil hat talk around it, falling on his butt, HIS NAME... man. i'm actually really really sad.

Re: The Green Monkey

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:14 am
by BornToWin
I hoped his off spring would carry forward the glimpse of speed from the sales breeze. It would have legitimized his talent. It is ironic that a horse that could sell for $16m could become an underdog, but he kind of did that. Did Coolmore ever use him?

Re: The Green Monkey

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:43 am
by Flanders
BornToWin wrote:I hoped his off spring would carry forward the glimpse of speed from the sales breeze. It would have legitimized his talent. It is ironic that a horse that could sell for $16m could become an underdog, but he kind of did that. Did Coolmore ever use him?

I would highly doubt that Coolmore ever used him. He wasn't really used much by anyone.
His first crop was born in 2010 and he only has 46 foals of racing age(25 of which were in his first crop), 37 starts, 30 winners and 4 Stakes Winners(9% from foals of racing age).
I'm looking at the Mares bred to foals born stats on the Jockey Club's webpage, its not always 100% right because sometimes breeders don't report their foals in times to make the list but he doesn't have many left. He isn't on the list of stallions that covered mares in 2017, only covered one mare in 2016 with no foals reported. One 2yo. So according to that, unless someone didn't report a mare/foal to the Jockey Club in time or if he covered mares in 2018, he has no more foals younger than 2.

Re: The Green Monkey

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:04 am
by Catalina
BornToWin wrote:I hoped his off spring would carry forward the glimpse of speed from the sales breeze. It would have legitimized his talent. It is ironic that a horse that could sell for $16m could become an underdog, but he kind of did that. Did Coolmore ever use him?


And, had he gotten the many black type mares that American Pharoah attracted as a freshman sire, maybe he, too, would have had a better chance of passing on his speed.

Re: The Green Monkey

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:53 am
by Katewerk
Just a general question -- is there a drug testing protocol in place for these sales?

Re: The Green Monkey

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:32 pm
by TapitsGal
It says how much he meant to Hartley/DeRenzo that they won’t ever put another horse in his stall. My heart breaks for his owners and handlers

Re: The Green Monkey

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:56 pm
by WarBiscuit


Well, that explains why he had not covered any mares in the past few years. Sorry to hear this news. He did, for whatever reason, capture the fancy of many folks over the years, and I was (and still am) interested to read PJMIII's reports of his few racing offspring. One that raced at Hazel Park and that I followed closely was Love Tractor, an absolute spitting image of her daddy - just beautiful.

RIP, The Green Monkey, and condolences to your connections and followers.

WarBiscuit

Re: The Green Monkey

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:15 pm
by Curtis
Katewerk wrote:Just a general question -- is there a drug testing protocol in place for these sales?

For the horses or buyers?