The VENT Thread

Tessablue
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Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:04 pm

Sorry for your loss, BL. It's clear Finn was loved and had a great life.
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Tessablue wrote:sent my dissertation in and immediately got the flu. Bet this is related to the fact that I always get sick on vacation. Joke's on you, constantly stressed body, I'm going to have a real job with real hours soon! Hopefully!
And now you wait to hear if it'll be accepted as is or what changes they would like to see? Good luck with the flu.
I give a public presentation next week, after which my committee "grills" me on my dissertation and suggests edits (they probably haven't read it). Then I make those edits, hand it in, and then I'm a doctor I guess. Exciting, but would be a lot more exciting if I could actually find a job in the next month or so. Was supposed to have funding over the summer but the NIH has, uh, run into some difficulties for some reason.

And thanks, you and peep... finally got over it but it was nasty. Feels like half of Boston is sick right now. This miserable weather certainly isn't helping.
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:47 pm

My dog somehow fractured her tooth to the pulp yesterday. She went in for her yearly shots today and I had the vet look at her mouth. He said the tooth has GOT to come out. He quoted me at nearly $560 for the extraction of ONE tooth and that is minus the dental cleaning. If we leave the tooth in it will become infected abscessed or both in six months to a year. I am extremely limited income. My mom helps me out by paying for my dogs yearly vaccinations but anything extra beyond that I pay...im also on disability so yes I'm extremely stressed right now trying to figure out a way I can afford this surgery
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Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:25 pm

TapitsGal wrote:My dog somehow fractured her tooth to the pulp yesterday. She went in for her yearly shots today and I had the vet look at her mouth. He said the tooth has GOT to come out. He quoted me at nearly $560 for the extraction of ONE tooth and that is minus the dental cleaning. If we leave the tooth in it will become infected abscessed or both in six months to a year. I am extremely limited income. My mom helps me out by paying for my dogs yearly vaccinations but anything extra beyond that I pay...im also on disability so yes I'm extremely stressed right now trying to figure out a way I can afford this surgery
Holy COW. My dog had 15 teeth removed and it cost less than that. But I go to a vet clinic that also does payment plans and gives discounts if you are under a certain income level.

Do you have any other options?
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Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:49 pm

So I'm right that price is obscene?
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Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:10 pm

TapitsGal wrote:So I'm right that price is obscene?
Shouldn't you then get on the ball and find a vet that charges less and/or is willing to work out a payment plan with you??? Your dog should not have to risk a painful infection much less losing her life while you're polling the internet whether that vet is overpriced or not.
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starrydreamer wrote:
TapitsGal wrote:My dog somehow fractured her tooth to the pulp yesterday. She went in for her yearly shots today and I had the vet look at her mouth. He said the tooth has GOT to come out. He quoted me at nearly $560 for the extraction of ONE tooth and that is minus the dental cleaning. If we leave the tooth in it will become infected abscessed or both in six months to a year. I am extremely limited income. My mom helps me out by paying for my dogs yearly vaccinations but anything extra beyond that I pay...im also on disability so yes I'm extremely stressed right now trying to figure out a way I can afford this surgery
Holy COW. My dog had 15 teeth removed and it cost less than that. But I go to a vet clinic that also does payment plans and gives discounts if you are under a certain income level.

Do you have any other options?
In a person, getting a tooth out that has fractured to the pulp isn't simply an extraction but would get you referred to an oral surgeon.
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Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:33 am

I think many vets would be willing to work out a payment plan with you. Have you discussed this with your vet?
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Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:30 pm

Catalina wrote:
starrydreamer wrote:
TapitsGal wrote:My dog somehow fractured her tooth to the pulp yesterday. She went in for her yearly shots today and I had the vet look at her mouth. He said the tooth has GOT to come out. He quoted me at nearly $560 for the extraction of ONE tooth and that is minus the dental cleaning. If we leave the tooth in it will become infected abscessed or both in six months to a year. I am extremely limited income. My mom helps me out by paying for my dogs yearly vaccinations but anything extra beyond that I pay...im also on disability so yes I'm extremely stressed right now trying to figure out a way I can afford this surgery
Holy COW. My dog had 15 teeth removed and it cost less than that. But I go to a vet clinic that also does payment plans and gives discounts if you are under a certain income level.

Do you have any other options?
In a person, getting a tooth out that has fractured to the pulp isn't simply an extraction but would get you referred to an oral surgeon.
Indeed. I just had a vertical root fracture removed in the last two weeks by an oral surgeon. But still, I think TapitsGal should get a quote from another vet and/or see if the current vet does a payment plan. Because yeah, the dog needs that tooth out.
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Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:48 pm

starrydreamer wrote:
Catalina wrote: In a person, getting a tooth out that has fractured to the pulp isn't simply an extraction but would get you referred to an oral surgeon.
Indeed. I just had a vertical root fracture removed in the last two weeks by an oral surgeon. But still, I think TapitsGal should get a quote from another vet and/or see if the current vet does a payment plan. Because yeah, the dog needs that tooth out.
Yes, and getting it out sooner would probably be better than waiting a few months.
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She has an appointment for a second opinion on the 17th and is on antibiotics in the meantime
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Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:11 am

Also my friend just found out how important it is to thoroughly research dog rescues. She adopted a 13 week old puppy from a rescue one of her friends reccomended.... she has these past few weeks been through the ringer with that dog. First with the dog being first diagnosed with parvo/hookworms and now he's been diagnosed with another not as serious parasite... and he's had to be re-vaccinated as the vet believes his vaccine records were altered or non existant( my friend was told he had the parvo shot)... she said the rescue has been awful to deal with regarding his health...and that she didn't find out until a few days after she'd brought him home that another puppy in the litter had died from parvo.... she got this info via email
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Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:12 am

We are pretty sure one of the new farm dogs was swiped by a...Hawk? Owl? Fox? Literally with people watching the pack closely out the window, less than 25 feet away.

Yes. Again.

Motherf***ker. We had him for a month and he was literally a perfect, pure gem of a dog. Ugh. UGH. This is why people don't get little dogs out here, I guess. I am now radically paranoid about wildlife -- I've never had reason to be before. Bleh.
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Insane Crazy wrote:We are pretty sure one of the new farm dogs was swiped by a...Hawk? Owl? Fox? Literally with people watching the pack closely out the window, less than 25 feet away.

Yes. Again.

Motherf***ker. We had him for a month and he was literally a perfect, pure gem of a dog. Ugh. UGH. This is why people don't get little dogs out here, I guess. I am now radically paranoid about wildlife -- I've never had reason to be before. Bleh.
Poor dog. Unless he was a small puppy from a small breed, more likely coyotes. Photoshopped internet offerings notwithstanding, even a fully grown bald eagle couldn't fly off with much more than a 7 lbs prey.

Obviously, watching from inside the house is diddly security for the dog, even assuming that somebody kept their eyes on the dog all the time. Which, clearly they didn't, or they wouldn't have to be guessing as to what got the dog.
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Catalina wrote:
Insane Crazy wrote:We are pretty sure one of the new farm dogs was swiped by a...Hawk? Owl? Fox? Literally with people watching the pack closely out the window, less than 25 feet away.

Yes. Again.

Motherf***ker. We had him for a month and he was literally a perfect, pure gem of a dog. Ugh. UGH. This is why people don't get little dogs out here, I guess. I am now radically paranoid about wildlife -- I've never had reason to be before. Bleh.
Poor dog. Unless he was a small puppy from a small breed, more likely coyotes. Photoshopped internet offerings notwithstanding, even a fully grown bald eagle couldn't fly off with much more than a 7 lbs prey.

Obviously, watching from inside the house is diddly security for the dog, even assuming that somebody kept their eyes on the dog all the time. Which, clearly they didn't, or they wouldn't have to be guessing as to what got the dog.
He was 7 lb soaking wet -- smaller than most rabbits around these parts. Boss has always had big dogs on the farm, but has had littler ones for 10 years with no issues. My guess is the big dogs scared off most of the predators and they're finally moving back in, or changes in nearby farms (new buildings, new fields, etc.) are pushing animals out of old territory.

Since the first and only time we had issues with dogs getting taken/hurt was coyotes, the front yard has always been considered safe territory. I don't blame her for expecting it to stay that way. The coyotes (who we haven't seen hide nor hair of since they got the other dog, which is odd -- they were prolific in the weeks leading up to it) don't touch that area. That's why coyote is a question mark, though still possible. A fox or weasel wouldn't be impossible, either. We also have fishers, which can take down rabbits, porcupines, and deer fawns. Since they're wicked sneaky, we wouldn't know if we had them, either.

Granted, it's not like if a bird of prey swept down to get something, a human would be much good to stop it. That is what skeeves me out the most. The pack shot off into the woods in a frenzy, which is why she didn't have eyes specifically on the littlest one at the moment of absconsion. Of course, she's beating herself up plenty for it as it is.
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
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Insane Crazy wrote: He was 7 lb soaking wet -- smaller than most rabbits around these parts. Boss has always had big dogs on the farm, but has had littler ones for 10 years with no issues. My guess is the big dogs scared off most of the predators and they're finally moving back in, or changes in nearby farms (new buildings, new fields, etc.) are pushing animals out of old territory.

Since the first and only time we had issues with dogs getting taken/hurt was coyotes, the front yard has always been considered safe territory. I don't blame her for expecting it to stay that way. The coyotes (who we haven't seen hide nor hair of since they got the other dog, which is odd -- they were prolific in the weeks leading up to it) don't touch that area. That's why coyote is a question mark, though still possible. A fox or weasel wouldn't be impossible, either. We also have fishers, which can take down rabbits, porcupines, and deer fawns. Since they're wicked sneaky, we wouldn't know if we had them, either.

Granted, it's not like if a bird of prey swept down to get something, a human would be much good to stop it. That is what skeeves me out the most. The pack shot off into the woods in a frenzy, which is why she didn't have eyes specifically on the littlest one at the moment of absconsion. Of course, she's beating herself up plenty for it as it is.
My guess is that human expansion is driving coyotes into areas where they didn't use to be a common sight. And a pack of coyotes would be savvy enough to lure the big dogs away while one or two coyotes use the confusion to grab a small dog.
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Catalina wrote:My guess is that human expansion is driving coyotes into areas where they didn't use to be a common sight. And a pack of coyotes would be savvy enough to lure the big dogs away while one or two coyotes use the confusion to grab a small dog.
It's wild to realize that even rural expansion is contributing to this. We're talking additional farms, biiiig open tracts of land still, but the landscape is changing and has been for a while.

Right now we're down to mostly dogs under 20lb. The 40 lb fella is in fine fettle but can't hear a damn thing. I keep offering to get an Anatolian Shepherd or some such, but no takers yet...
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil? Well, I should say!
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Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:26 pm

You should watch the last episode of BBC America Planet Earth. It's pretty insane.

That said, some of the ways urbanization has effected the planet are semi-cool. See: peregrine falcon watching on my lunch break.
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Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:53 pm

Really sorry to hear that IC. I can't believe it happened again to you guys, that's so sad :(

Fishercats are terrifying and could absolutely be the culprits, but they are mostly nocturnal. Also they scream like banshees at night sometimes so that's one way to know if you have them. Either way, wishing you and the other people at your farm the best.
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:41 pm

Tessablue wrote:Really sorry to hear that IC. I can't believe it happened again to you guys, that's so sad :(

Fishercats are terrifying and could absolutely be the culprits, but they are mostly nocturnal. Also they scream like banshees at night sometimes so that's one way to know if you have them. Either way, wishing you and the other people at your farm the best.
It's the dogs there that need better luck.
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Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:18 pm

Somnambulist wrote:You should watch the last episode of BBC America Planet Earth. It's pretty insane.

That said, some of the ways urbanization has effected the planet are semi-cool. See: peregrine falcon watching on my lunch break.
Semi-cool until you remember that we're basically in the middle of a mass extinction event.

That said, I need to watch Planet Earth 2 still.
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