The VENT Thread

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Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:40 pm

Catalina wrote:
Tessablue wrote: But whatever will we do without all this life advice? Make decisions based on what is best for us personally within the contours of our chosen careers, instead of the outdated musings of some internet guy who has decided to spend his hard-earned retirement time provoking and patronizing strangers on the internet? Absurd.
Generically speaking, shouldn't that read "within the contours of the life one has elected to portray here in any given month"?
Uhh... no? That doesn't even make sense.

Anyways, now we can all see out in the open that stark is a patronizing creep who delights in bullying and prodding people but gets small and nasty when they don't back down. Not a terribly uncommon thing to be. He started this off by berating a mother for expressing frustration at the system that puts outrageous prices on her son's health, and now he's moved on towards telling me that I'm... going to die alone and unaccomplished, or something? Still haven't decided whether or not to deliver him the bad news on that front, but it's always nice to move past pretense, so I'd personally consider this all a net positive.
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:15 pm

Tessablue wrote: Still haven't decided whether or not to deliver him the bad news on that front, but it's always nice to move past pretense, so I'd personally consider this all a net positive.
IDK about you but my useless self only had a life goal of getting stark to look silly.

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED.
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:40 pm

Somnambulist wrote:
Tessablue wrote: Still haven't decided whether or not to deliver him the bad news on that front, but it's always nice to move past pretense, so I'd personally consider this all a net positive.
IDK about you but my useless self only had a life goal of getting stark to look silly.

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED.
Much reward for you. Very wow.
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:02 pm

This is directed towards the lurkers who are keeping score at home rather than posting along, I just want to put some closure on things rather than the fake news that's being reported. If you feel prompted to join in and offer something new, welcome aboard which ever side you're on, otherwise I'll consider this horse to be beaten and will be moving along to the next topic of interest.

Here's what we've really learned, or as Paul Harvey would say....The rest of the story.....

1) A while back we learned directly from a prolific poster that she knows she's a bitch and she's okay with that. To which I'll offer.....when do you think you'll outgrow that phase of your life, it's not very becoming.

2) And now we've learned from another poster that complaining is an accepted way of life today.......I've got a news flash for you, look around and try your best to find somebody you admire and look up to. I'm going to guess they're not labeled a complainer, nobody like's 'em, never have- never will. This too will be something you'll hopefully outgrow over time as other chronic complainers before you already have.

Good luck and be well.

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Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:52 pm

Somnambulist wrote:
Tessablue wrote: Still haven't decided whether or not to deliver him the bad news on that front, but it's always nice to move past pretense, so I'd personally consider this all a net positive.
IDK about you but my useless self only had a life goal of getting stark to look silly.

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED.
Congrats, rarely is success so rapid and so spectacularly conclusive. Where can you even go from here?
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Insane Crazy
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:28 pm

This was a TRIP.

Shoutout to all my fellow awful, entitled millennials (and non-millennials who sympathize with us, you damn fools).
Not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down right on the horse!
Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin' on Dan Patch? Make your blood boil? Well, I should say!
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:33 pm

Somnambulist wrote: God, I wish I was born 70 years ago and be so far out of touch with reality as it is now. It's such a shame companies don't pay a liveable wage now.
You know Som, you've made some incredibly insulting comments about the older generation. Most of which I have let slide by, because you haven't a clue. But this has to be the most insulting one you have ever made.

I turned 78 this last November. In that near 8 decades of living, I have established a great many clues - the vast majority of which you have yet to learn. Perhaps if the fates allow you to live as long, you'll then see where I'm coming from.

It's comments like this coming from some millennials that invite the rage of the elderly. So, you get a clue.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:28 pm

Who says stuff like "if the fates allow you to live as long". :?

What an odd place the internet is.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:21 pm

While stepping carefully around some of the 'odd stuff' in the last few pages :P, I agree with Som's point about wages.
When I first began my career, I was able to live pretty comfortably with a salary that wouldn't seem high by today's standards. Still, it enabled me to pay my bills and even put away some $. As I received raises, I was able to take vacations and indulge in a few hobbies.
However, as I drew near retirement age, my pay stalled and even decreased due to things beyond my control happening in my business. No more vacations, no more hobbies.
But I saw that my younger coworkers were starting their jobs with much lower pay, when compared to the buying power I had when I first started.
IMHO, it could be our larger population, creating a larger pool of potential employees for employers to pick from. Whoever is sufficiently-qualified and willing to work for lower wages and fewer benefits gets the job. Toss in the high cost of living...insurance, housing, transport, food, you name it...and "living wage" is getting pretty close to being an oxymoron. :(
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:33 pm

My parents bought a house with my salary two years ago. I can't imagine.
In the same vein, I my parents are boomers and they suffer tremendously.

Quite honestly I hate people my own age. The majority are entitled. I've worked 2+ jobs for my entire working life and have picked up random odd jobs as I could. I've been fortunate enough to work in jobs that provide solid benefits without large deductibles. I also love my parents and was able to live at home until 28 with the only form of rent be cleaning and paying for some improvements on their home. And the occasionally bottle of whiskey.

I also have nothing against anyone older. I saw stark praying on a mother who needs to work her frustrations out in healthy way. I played low because I find that low and from exp the healthcare insurance industry is awful. Sorry to have insulted anyone. You can't paint anything with a broad strokes. I wake up daily feeling blessed, loved and cherished. To say I'm miserable is laughable.

I also need inpatient therapy because I responded further
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:53 pm

As far back as I can remember in my work career, I never made enough money to live comfortably. My father died when I was 16. My mother had no job skills and she convinced me that it was the child's place to take care of the parents when they grew old. I bought into that and worked 2 sometimes 3 jobs to support myself and my mother who expected me to turn over my paychecks to her and she'd dole out money as she saw fit. When she died, that burden was lifted, but she left me with nothing. I knew many people living hand to mouth on wages that weren't livable. So it's NOT something recent.

My mother died when I was 26. I married Bill when I was 27. Our combined gross income was $300/wk. Our apt.rent was $145 month. We decided to buy a house. Mtg was $135 mo., but that didn't include insurance, taxes, oil, electricity, repairs, etc., etc. We both worked a 2nd job. Never racked up debt. We sometimes ate corn flakes for dinner, and some weeks I couldn't buy tooth paste and under arm deodorant in the same week. We never fought over money. We just bit the bullet and dug in for the long haul.

We both worked hard, had a strong work ethic which helped gain a better position in the companies for which we worked. It's only been the last 20 years of our marriage that we've been able to afford more than just the necessities. We knew early on that social security wouldn't sustain us if we lived to old age. Bill joined the military reserves even after serving 6 years in the USMC. He served for 20 years and retired with a pension at 62 and supplemental health benefits to Medicare. We both stayed long at the companies for which we worked, so we'd walk away with a good retirement. We bought property that would be an investment - not ego mansions. They all turned out well.

We planned for the future, never lived outside our means - still don't - and never racked up debt. It's the best advice I can give anyone - even now. But, what do I know? I'm an 8th decade survivor living comfortable who hasn't a clue.

And I would have written, "if God lets you live as long", but I knew it would piss Som off even more. :-)
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:10 pm

Bal,
Congrats on a job well done.
Must be very gratifying as you look back now and realize how many obstacles you had to face head-on and overcome during the long journey of life including your own very serious health issues.

Especially when compared to being 28, living for free with your parents and complaining about how rough life is, LOL.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:31 pm

I don't say things like if you live as long. That's actually callous. I'd never say anything like that to anyone.

I feel I've been nothing over the years on this forum but supportive of all your health problems. I've offered nothing but well wishes and prayers so I'm not sure why you are essentially saying the opposite for me.

Oh well. Continued happiness and health.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:42 pm

Somnambulist wrote:I don't say things like if you live as long. That's actually callous. I'd never say anything like that to anyone.

I feel I've been nothing over the years on this forum but supportive of all your health problems.

Oh well. Continued happiness and health. People are rotten and it's not age exclusive.
Oh, please, you're just making something up to be angry about. It wasn't a wish for you not to live long. Life is short, regardless of how long you live because the days grow short when you reach September. I think I heard that in a song. :-) One never knows how long they get to live. It's not callous; it's reality. I know far too many of friends and family who didn't get the privilege to grow old. But, growing old sucks. You just have to have tough nads to get through it and complain a lot - God lets you live longer.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:47 pm

You're so full of shit.

I have more than one diagnosis that would qualify me for disability and I don't file. I'm in A LOT of pain daily. I don't need to hear about how life is hard. I worked 3 jobs are once to keep the electric on and food in our fridge and have never once lived outside my means. There was a full year where there was nothing more than $3 in my account after my bills were paid. But I got through that.

So truly, fuck you. I've worked hard through pain and been grateful for the love and family I have. It's more than most have.

This forum is the worst and I've never met someone good off it.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:15 pm

Somnambulist wrote:You're so full of shit.

I have more than one diagnosis that would qualify me for disability and I don't file. I'm in A LOT of pain daily. I don't need to hear about how life is hard. I worked 3 jobs are once to keep the electric on and food in our fridge and have never once lived outside my means. There was a full year where there was nothing more than $3 in my account after my bills were paid. But I got through that.

So truly, fuck you. I've worked hard through pain and been grateful for the love and family I have. It's more than most have.

This forum is the worst and I've never met someone good off it.
Oh my!

I'll take a wild guess and say there's probably a pretty good dent in one of those free whiskey bottles on a lonely Saturday night?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:18 pm

Somnambulist wrote:You're so full of shit.

I have more than one diagnosis that would qualify me for disability and I don't file. I'm in A LOT of pain daily. I don't need to hear about how life is hard. I worked 3 jobs are once to keep the electric on and food in our fridge and have never once lived outside my means. There was a full year where there was nothing more than $3 in my account after my bills were paid. But I got through that.

So truly, fuck you. I've worked hard through pain and been grateful for the love and family I have. It's more than most have.

This forum is the worst and I've never met someone good off it.
For crissake, Som, calm down. And talk about callous. Oh, POT! Just what the hell did I say that you are taking so personally. Maybe one of your diagnoses is getting intervention for anger management. And screw you too and the horse you rode up on. Bitch.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:40 pm

Oh good grief, everyone.

Som came to my defense when I got attacked for venting about health insurance as it relates to my child. In the vent thread. And I've since been told that I'm a habitual complainer who doesn't appreciate what she has in life and doesn't work hard enough... or something. And Som and TessaBlue have been called worse by the same poster.

Some boomers on here need not be quite so condescending toward the younger folks. We're not all 27 year olds who live with their parents. I'm married with a young child who has spent more time in the hospital than many here (excepting Ballerina). My husband and I just bought our second house. I haven't had help from my parents in 15 years.

I don't know why I keep trying to justify myself to some strangers with clear superiority complexes. Having lived longer doesn't automatically make you wiser or better than anyone else. We're all people, we've all had struggles. No one is better than any other.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:48 pm

I am not a boomer - born before WWII, and I wasn't singling anybody out with my comments. If that's what you're implying starrydreamer, lose that thought immediately. Perhaps you forgot to notice my support when you told of the problems you were and still are experiencing with your child when you mentioned it in my Merry Christmas thread. The window candle still burns.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:00 pm

Ballerina wrote:I am not a boomer - born before WWII, and I wasn't singling anybody out with my comments. If that's what you're implying starrydreamer, lose that thought immediately. Perhaps you forgot to notice my support when you told of the problems you were and still are experiencing with your child when you mentioned it in my Merry Christmas thread. The window candle still burns.
Naw, I wasn't, Ballerina. But you can see why comments like that elicit some remarks. I don't even consider myself a millennial- I'm in my mid-30s. But the assumption that we don't work hard for what we have is just rude (not saying you are).

And yes, you've been a supporter of my child and I appreciate it. I'm sorry for calling you a boomer. :lol:

(By the way, I was thinking the other day about Lloydobler - you owned him in partnership some years ago, right?)
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