2017 Report Of Mares Bred

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Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:19 pm

Summer Bird wrote:Mr Speaker did not pass quarantine and was sent back to South America. He should be back next season.
What would cause a horse not to pass quarantine- picked up some type of bug?
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:30 pm

I guess the novelty of having a Giant's Causeway worth off. Only 31 mares this year?
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serenassong wrote:
Summer Bird wrote:Mr Speaker did not pass quarantine and was sent back to South America. He should be back next season.
What would cause a horse not to pass quarantine- picked up some type of bug?
Pretty sure he had some sort of virus when he arrived for quarantine, but I can't remember what it was.
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Psychotic Parakeet wrote:I guess the novelty of having a Giant's Causeway worth off. Only 31 mares this year?
They are trying to limit him as much as they can since he's getting up there in age and he's also a very slow breeder. The farm I work at tried to breed a mare to him and they suggested sending her to Pharoah instead,
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:30 am

Wow Effinex got a lot of mares. At least he'll have a good number of runners to carry on his legacy.

Corinthian only bred 9, no wonder they're sending him to Turkey next year.

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Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:56 am

Psychotic Parakeet wrote:I guess the novelty of having a Giant's Causeway worth off. Only 31 mares this year?
I went on a tour at Ashford in August and they mentioned that they have been cutting his book back because of his age and his physical condition. It was the off season but his hind legs were wrapped, so probably just some wear and tear. I mean, for numerous years he covered 200+ mares.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:07 pm

DRF article:

Number of Mares Bred Declines; Into Mischief Top-Covering Stallion
For the third consecutive year, and for the 11th time in 12 years, the number of reported mares bred (RMB) in North America has declined, according to year-to-date statistics through Oct. 17 released by The Jockey Club Wednesday.

The 31,863 covers reported thus far in 2017 represent a drop of 5.6% from the 33,746 RMBs received through the same calendar date last year.

For a broader historical perspective, using statistics contained in The Jockey Club’s online fact book, the number of mares bred is now nearly half of what the year-end report was for 1991 (the oldest date for which The Jockey Club has published online statistics), when 63,479 mares were bred.

The number of active stallions on the continent continues to fall, having dropped in every single year since at least 1991, according to the online fact book.

To date for 2017, 1,342 stallions have been reported active, versus 1,423 reported at this time in 2016 (-5.7%).

In 1991, The Jockey Club reported 6,696 active stallions, nearly five times the current number.

The number of North American stallions covering 100 or more mares has also continued to decrease (105 in 2015; 100 in 2016; 91 in 2017).
More: http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/nu ... -stallion/
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:36 pm

Thanks for posting this news. The statistics are so interesting. Through October 17, 2017, The Jockey Club reports that 1,342 stallions covered 31,863 mares in North America during 2017. In round numbers, 5% of stallions had a book size of greater than 125 mares, and that group of stallions covered 30% of mares bred. Put it another way, 95% of all active Thoroughbred stallions in North America attracted only 60% of available mares.

Makes me ponder the mysteries of the unknown and unknowable what ifs.
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:03 pm

Not an ideal scenario for the gene pool.
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OTOH, I read on twitter earlier this week (will go back and find it if I can) that one of the newer Japanese shuttling stallions covered 294 mares... (I thought it was Maurice at first but I can't find the tweet...??) Still, that's a whopping number. :shock:

ETA: whoops it was Duramente and 284 mares... Maurice only (!) had 265 :lol:

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Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:49 am

Treve wrote:Hat Trick (JPN) 19
He's standing in the wrong country, wish people would give him a second look given how his son Darbisim is doing well, and if I am not mistaken a few of Hat Trick's current runners did not too bad this year outside of Japan.
That's a shame.
I hope that Dabirsim's success in Europe will cast a spotlight on hii sire Hat Trick in the US next year, too!!!
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:21 am

Treve wrote:Not an ideal scenario for the gene pool.
Yep. Plus there must be some stallions whose potential is not being realized due to lack of support and/or a lack of a wider range of mares to cover.
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:57 am

tachyon wrote:
Treve wrote:Hat Trick (JPN) 19
He's standing in the wrong country, wish people would give him a second look given how his son Darbisim is doing well, and if I am not mistaken a few of Hat Trick's current runners did not too bad this year outside of Japan.
That's a shame.
I hope that Dabirsim's success in Europe will cast a spotlight on hii sire Hat Trick in the US next year, too!!!
Me too! I do feel like US breeders are getting more interested and invested in Turf breeding (if only to attract big euro buyers at the sales) so hopefully a few more will give him a try.
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lurkey mclurker wrote:OTOH, I read on twitter earlier this week (will go back and find it if I can) that one of the newer Japanese shuttling stallions covered 294 mares... (I thought it was Maurice at first but I can't find the tweet...??) Still, that's a whopping number. :shock:

ETA: whoops it was Duramente and 284 mares... Maurice only (!) had 265 :lol:

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#Duramente mated with 284 mares, #Maurice 265 (except in AUS), #LordKanaloa 243, #RulerShip 240 & #Orfevre 191 in #Japan. #Sire #horseracing
Considering how lame Duramente was during the Shadai Stallion show prior to the 2017 breeding season, I guess he was... motivated enough to cover a book that big! 8-)
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:12 pm

Treve wrote:Not an ideal scenario for the gene pool.
I often wonder how much of the year-after-year top sire success is due to legitimate prepotency, and how much feedback loop from top producing mares that flock to them.
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Katewerk wrote:
Treve wrote:Not an ideal scenario for the gene pool.
I often wonder how much of the year-after-year top sire success is due to legitimate prepotency, and how much feedback loop from top producing mares that flock to them.
Or expensive bloodstock being treated like expensive bloodstock, i.e., being sent to the best trainers, etc.

Most horses have pedigrees crammed with high-class ancestors. Why don't we see horses from alleged "cheap" stock competing at the highest levels more often? There really isn't a lot of genetic difference between a horse by Nobody out of Nothing and a top priced yearling.

I've said for years that there is a horse running right now at in cheap claimers who would rival Northern Dancer in the stud barn--the problem is finding him. :lol:
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