2018 Stallion Fees

Re: 2018 Stallion Fees

Postby Retrospectiv » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:38 pm

$35,000 for Classic Empire.....

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Re: 2018 Stallion Fees

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:44 pm

For a Two-Year-Old Champ standing at Coolmore, it seems kind of reasonable. Whatever issues he may have had on the track, he does have a nice pedigree. Guess we'll find out in a couple of years whether that fee is reasonable, too high...or a bargain. :P ;)
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Re: 2018 Stallion Fees

Postby Treve » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:21 pm

Uncle Mo started at $35k as well. And unlike CE, he hadn't even won a G1 at 3, and his female family while decent isn't in my opinion as elite as CE's. Plus CE is by probably one of the hottest emerging sirelines (Whether you mean Pioneerof the Nile or Empire Maker or both), I'd say all in all it's reasonable. Though I do think if he were standing elsewhere he'd probably start at $25k.
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Re: 2018 Stallion Fees

Postby serenassong » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:03 am

"He never was. He stood the 1999 season (age 29) and then coliced in the summer and was put down."

That's what happened- couldn't remember- that is really quite a long time- Im thinking that he has the record of the oldest active TB stallion.

He was Serena's first date- and the result was Serena's Tune(98)- who had Serena's Cat, dam of Honor Code, etc.
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Re: 2018 Stallion Fees

Postby mariasmon » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:12 am

Treve wrote:Uncle Mo started at $35k as well. And unlike CE, he hadn't even won a G1 at 3, and his female family while decent isn't in my opinion as elite as CE's. Plus CE is by probably one of the hottest emerging sirelines (Whether you mean Pioneerof the Nile or Empire Maker or both), I'd say all in all it's reasonable. Though I do think if he were standing elsewhere he'd probably start at $25k.


My take on that is that Uncle Mo was a brilliant freak, who had some really serious health problems as a 3YO, and Classic Empire was just a very good horse (who is also a head case).
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Re: 2018 Stallion Fees

Postby Treve » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:06 pm

mariasmon wrote:
Treve wrote:Uncle Mo started at $35k as well. And unlike CE, he hadn't even won a G1 at 3, and his female family while decent isn't in my opinion as elite as CE's. Plus CE is by probably one of the hottest emerging sirelines (Whether you mean Pioneerof the Nile or Empire Maker or both), I'd say all in all it's reasonable. Though I do think if he were standing elsewhere he'd probably start at $25k.


My take on that is that Uncle Mo was a brilliant freak, who had some really serious health problems as a 3YO, and Classic Empire was just a very good horse (who is also a head case).


I'm just saying that when you look at the various +/- for each at the time of retirement, 35k seems about expected for Coolmore.
Disagree on him being a headcase considering every time he has acted out it was related to a health issue (abscess and subsequent back pain from being forced to run on an abscessed foot...)
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Re: 2018 Stallion Fees

Postby Miss Woodford » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:27 pm

serenassong wrote:"He never was. He stood the 1999 season (age 29) and then coliced in the summer and was put down."

That's what happened- couldn't remember- that is really quite a long time- Im thinking that he has the record of the oldest active TB stallion.

He was Serena's first date- and the result was Serena's Tune(98)- who had Serena's Cat, dam of Honor Code, etc.

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Re: 2018 Stallion Fees

Postby Horsebagger » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:03 am



And Quality Road jumps to $70,000. He's the young, upwardly trending stallion there at the moment.
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Re: 2018 Stallion Fees

Postby mosieposie12 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:09 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote:Medaglia d'Oro's stud fee increased to $200,000
http://www.drf.com/news/medaglia-doros-stud-fee-increased-200000

Following is the complete list of advertised 2018 stud fees for Darley’s U.S. stallion roster.

Kentucky
Animal Kingdom - $30,000
Astern (NEW) - $15,000
Bernardini - $85,000
Frosted - $50,000
Hard Spun - $40,000
Medaglia d’Oro - $200,000
Midshipman - $8,500
Nyquist - $40,000
Street Boss - $20,000
Street Sense - $35,000

New York
Alpha - $5,000


Looks like after his two winners last weekend Medaglia D'Oro was bumped to $250,000
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