2018 Stallion Fees

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Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:38 pm

$35,000 for Classic Empire.....

Thoughts?
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:44 pm

For a Two-Year-Old Champ standing at Coolmore, it seems kind of reasonable. Whatever issues he may have had on the track, he does have a nice pedigree. Guess we'll find out in a couple of years whether that fee is reasonable, too high...or a bargain. :P ;)
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Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:21 pm

Uncle Mo started at $35k as well. And unlike CE, he hadn't even won a G1 at 3, and his female family while decent isn't in my opinion as elite as CE's. Plus CE is by probably one of the hottest emerging sirelines (Whether you mean Pioneerof the Nile or Empire Maker or both), I'd say all in all it's reasonable. Though I do think if he were standing elsewhere he'd probably start at $25k.
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"He never was. He stood the 1999 season (age 29) and then coliced in the summer and was put down."

That's what happened- couldn't remember- that is really quite a long time- Im thinking that he has the record of the oldest active TB stallion.

He was Serena's first date- and the result was Serena's Tune(98)- who had Serena's Cat, dam of Honor Code, etc.
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Treve wrote:Uncle Mo started at $35k as well. And unlike CE, he hadn't even won a G1 at 3, and his female family while decent isn't in my opinion as elite as CE's. Plus CE is by probably one of the hottest emerging sirelines (Whether you mean Pioneerof the Nile or Empire Maker or both), I'd say all in all it's reasonable. Though I do think if he were standing elsewhere he'd probably start at $25k.
My take on that is that Uncle Mo was a brilliant freak, who had some really serious health problems as a 3YO, and Classic Empire was just a very good horse (who is also a head case).
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mariasmon wrote:
Treve wrote:Uncle Mo started at $35k as well. And unlike CE, he hadn't even won a G1 at 3, and his female family while decent isn't in my opinion as elite as CE's. Plus CE is by probably one of the hottest emerging sirelines (Whether you mean Pioneerof the Nile or Empire Maker or both), I'd say all in all it's reasonable. Though I do think if he were standing elsewhere he'd probably start at $25k.
My take on that is that Uncle Mo was a brilliant freak, who had some really serious health problems as a 3YO, and Classic Empire was just a very good horse (who is also a head case).
I'm just saying that when you look at the various +/- for each at the time of retirement, 35k seems about expected for Coolmore.
Disagree on him being a headcase considering every time he has acted out it was related to a health issue (abscess and subsequent back pain from being forced to run on an abscessed foot...)
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serenassong wrote:"He never was. He stood the 1999 season (age 29) and then coliced in the summer and was put down."

That's what happened- couldn't remember- that is really quite a long time- Im thinking that he has the record of the oldest active TB stallion.

He was Serena's first date- and the result was Serena's Tune(98)- who had Serena's Cat, dam of Honor Code, etc.
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Candy Ride to $80,000.
And Quality Road jumps to $70,000. He's the young, upwardly trending stallion there at the moment.
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Sparrow Castle wrote:Medaglia d'Oro's stud fee increased to $200,000
http://www.drf.com/news/medaglia-doros- ... sed-200000

Following is the complete list of advertised 2018 stud fees for Darley’s U.S. stallion roster.

Kentucky
Animal Kingdom - $30,000
Astern (NEW) - $15,000
Bernardini - $85,000
Frosted - $50,000
Hard Spun - $40,000
Medaglia d’Oro - $200,000
Midshipman - $8,500
Nyquist - $40,000
Street Boss - $20,000
Street Sense - $35,000

New York
Alpha - $5,000
Looks like after his two winners last weekend Medaglia D'Oro was bumped to $250,000
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mosieposie12 wrote:
Sparrow Castle wrote:Medaglia d'Oro's stud fee increased to $200,000
http://www.drf.com/news/medaglia-doros- ... sed-200000

Following is the complete list of advertised 2018 stud fees for Darley’s U.S. stallion roster.

Kentucky
Animal Kingdom - $30,000
Astern (NEW) - $15,000
Bernardini - $85,000
Frosted - $50,000
Hard Spun - $40,000
Medaglia d’Oro - $200,000
Midshipman - $8,500
Nyquist - $40,000
Street Boss - $20,000
Street Sense - $35,000

New York
Alpha - $5,000
Looks like after his two winners last weekend Medaglia D'Oro was bumped to $250,000
At least for some mares.

Darley‏ @DarleyStallions
New 2018 stud fee of $250k for #MedagliadOro. Will only apply to a limited number of remaining seasons. More here: http://darley.to/lp
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mosieposie12 wrote:
Sparrow Castle wrote:Medaglia d'Oro's stud fee increased to $200,000
http://www.drf.com/news/medaglia-doros- ... sed-200000

Following is the complete list of advertised 2018 stud fees for Darley’s U.S. stallion roster.

Kentucky
Animal Kingdom - $30,000
Astern (NEW) - $15,000
Bernardini - $85,000
Frosted - $50,000
Hard Spun - $40,000
Medaglia d’Oro - $200,000
Midshipman - $8,500
Nyquist - $40,000
Street Boss - $20,000
Street Sense - $35,000

New York
Alpha - $5,000
Looks like after his two winners last weekend Medaglia D'Oro was bumped to $250,000
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Cupid-$12,500
Practical Joke-$30,000
-also mentioned he is still in training and targeting the Cigar Mile
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[quote="TBird"

Looks like after his two winners last weekend Medaglia D'Oro was bumped to $250,000[/quote][/quote]

YUP! https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... p-winners/
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Nicole Russo‏ @DRFRusso
Arrogate to stand for $75,000 in first season at stud, @JuddmonteFarms has just announced.

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.@JuddmonteFarms also says that Arrogate's book will be limited to 142 mares. MG1Ws Paulassilverlining, By the Moon already slated to visit him.
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Lower than I thought it would be. The limited book will probably help.
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Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

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mosieposie12 wrote:http://coolmore.com/coolmore-america-an ... oke-cupid/

Cupid-$12,500
Practical Joke-$30,000
-also mentioned he is still in training and targeting the Cigar Mile
Awww, I was hoping he'd stick around. But will be nice to see him try the mile.
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:24 pm

Is the Cigar a one-turn mile? That should be right in PJ's wheelhouse.
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Is the Cigar a one-turn mile? That should be right in PJ's wheelhouse.
It is.

I don't know why they're retiring him. I get nothing is sure.. but Met Mile?
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