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Stallions that got 'hot' and then faded?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:11 pm
by bare it all
Was looking through the FT Sratoga sale catalog going on today.

Remember how hot Mr Greeley was? Was getting some really nice mares.

Of course, Forestry is probably the most remembered.

Anyone else?

Re: Stallions that got 'hot' and then faded?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:24 pm
by TBird
Both Tiznow and Lemon Drop Kid started out hot with their first few crops, then faded away for 3-4 years before they came roaring back.

Re: Stallions that got 'hot' and then faded?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:44 pm
by serenassong
Cant remember- was Smarty ever " Hot"- like for his first or second season? He's doing quite well with his foals in Uruguay FWIW.

Re: Stallions that got 'hot' and then faded?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:10 pm
by Summer Bird
Birdstone after having Mine that Bird and Summer Bird in his first crop. He’s had some other decent winners, but nothing like his first crop.

Re: Stallions that got 'hot' and then faded?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:18 pm
by Retrospectiv
Forestry was the 1st one I thought of.

Hot hot hot......and fizzled out....

Re: Stallions that got 'hot' and then faded?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:22 pm
by Retrospectiv
serenassong wrote:Cant remember- was Smarty ever " Hot"- like for his first or second season? He's doing quite well with his foals in Uruguay FWIW.


No, only for his 1st few season's stud fee. Much like Point Given.

Re: Stallions that got 'hot' and then faded?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:37 pm
by Flanders
bare it all wrote:Was looking through the FT Sratoga sale catalog going on today.

Remember how hot Mr Greeley was? Was getting some really nice mares.

Of course, Forestry is probably the most remembered.

Anyone else?

I don't think Mr. Greeley's stud fee went down because he wasn't hot anymore. I just think it was market adjustment because of the financial crisis in the world at the time. Then he died.

Re: Stallions that got 'hot' and then faded?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:55 pm
by Ridan_Remembered
The reverse is also true sometimes. Stallions start off slow and get better offspring later in their careers.

Re: Stallions that got 'hot' and then faded?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:54 pm
by Retrospectiv
Ridan_Remembered wrote:The reverse is also true sometimes. Stallions start off slow and get better offspring later in their careers.



Ghostzapper prime example.

Hard to impress anyone off that initial $200,000 stud fee though....

Re: Stallions that got 'hot' and then faded?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:54 pm
by Sparrow Castle
Retrospectiv wrote:
Ridan_Remembered wrote:The reverse is also true sometimes. Stallions start off slow and get better offspring later in their careers.

Ghostzapper prime example.

Hard to impress anyone off that initial $200,000 stud fee though....

Malibu Moon comes to mind as a more gradual rising star in the breeding industry. I think he started off in 2000 at Country Life in Maryland for about $3k. Now he's at Spendthrift for $75k and his babies are hot commodities at the sales.