Empire Maker

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Natalma
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Sun May 07, 2017 1:47 am

Empire Maker now has a son that sired a Triple Crown Winner in his 2nd crop and another son that sired a Kentucky Derby winner in his 1st crop. I think his return to Kentucky is going to turn out to be one of the savviest decisions involving American bloodstock of the last 50 years.
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Retrospectiv
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Sun May 07, 2017 11:11 am

Something had to come from the incredible mares he saw in his years at stud here. Guess his biggest impact will come as a sire of sires, as he was a bit of a disappointment himself given his opportunity.
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Izvestia
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Sun May 07, 2017 4:18 pm

Unbridled-Fappiano-Mr.Prospector - great sire line.
Add in the wonderful female family. Genetic gold mine.
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Private Thoughts
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Sun May 07, 2017 5:24 pm

Izvestia wrote:Unbridled-Fappiano-Mr.Prospector - great sire line.
Add in the wonderful female family. Genetic gold mine.
Agreed!
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Treve
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Mon May 08, 2017 11:17 am

Retrospectiv wrote:Something had to come from the incredible mares he saw in his years at stud here. Guess his biggest impact will come as a sire of sires, as he was a bit of a disappointment himself given his opportunity.
Didn't most of the mares he saw come from primarily Turf stock though? I remember seeing somewhere that Juddmonte was a bit miffed that he was doing really well for others but performing poorly for them, which apparently factored into the decision for sending him to Japan. And Over there same story, re: Turf/Dirt.
I mean his two TC race winning sire sons, both placed in the Ky Derby, (like himself I might add), one placed in the Preakness, that's an impressive dynasty. His son Bodemeister, and his grandsons American Pharoah, Classic Empire all won the Arkansas Derby as well.
His son Pioneerof the Nile and the direct grandson Pharoah both won the CashCall Futurity, and PotN won the Santa Anita Derby.
Both Empire Maker and his grandson Always Dreaming won the Florida Derby.

By the way I don't know why I didn't think of this before but Bodemeister has a similar nick to American Pharoah (Empire Maker over a Storm Cat mare), that might turn out to bode really well for AP as a sire.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Treve
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Mon May 15, 2017 1:53 pm

Stumbled upon this piece about him by Haskin
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/horse-ra ... -home.aspx

I sure do wish Bobby Frankel were still around to see it all.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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