if the gelding had never happened

if the gelding had never happened

Postby sweettalk » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:12 pm

we've seen some very, very good (even great) geldings. sometimes we lament the gelding, but then think "well, maybe they would not have run as well otherwise".

my question here is; of some of the great geldings we've seen (or are too young to have seen), from a purely breeding, bloodstock agenting, "this family was so successful, especially crossed with ThisParticularLine", who would you have really liked to see offspring from? (we all know that you can have the best breeding on the fastest horse and they could still flop in the shed and vice versa, but we also all know that curiosity and hypotheticals can be fun, and that's all i'm aiming for)

*bonus points if you say which lines you would have crossed your chosen gelding(s) with*
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Re: if the gelding had never happened

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:51 pm

While multimillionaire Budroyale may not have been a great gelding, he was pretty good and I suspect that his owners may have had 'gelding' regret when the rest of his Cee's Tizzy/Cee's Song siblings turned out to be so good.
Tizbud has become a nice California stallion; the sisters have become really good broodmares, giving us runners like Oxbow and Paynter; and Tiznow...well, I don't have room to list all his virtues. :D
How good could Budroyale have become as a sire?
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Re: if the gelding had never happened

Postby firehorse » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:22 pm

Forego!
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Re: if the gelding had never happened

Postby middleground » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:02 am

What's the old quote from Alfred Vanderbilt? Something like "If I'd gelded every horse I'd owned, I would have made only one mistake."

That said, Fort Marcy. Great female family that still pops in pedigrees, and by a phenomenal sire who died far too early in his stud career:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/fort+marcy
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Re: if the gelding had never happened

Postby ThreeMustangs » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:10 pm

Cirrus des Aigles. Maybe not for breeding so much as he would have been allowed to run in the Arc.
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Re: if the gelding had never happened

Postby Izvestia » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:19 pm

Hard to suggest anyone better than Fort Marcy!

I always thought Funny Cide could have been a useful sire.
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Re: if the gelding had never happened

Postby sweettalk » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:31 pm

Izvestia wrote:Hard to suggest anyone better than Fort Marcy!

I always thought Funny Cide could have been a useful sire.

interestingly, he was my inspiration for the thread as I was thinking about his sister and ill-fated dam.
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Re: if the gelding had never happened

Postby Ruffian_fan » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:45 am

I always wondered about Perfect Drift, as a "sturdier" son of Dynaformer. Seems like those can be hard to come by, unfortunately.
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Re: if the gelding had never happened

Postby serenassong » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:08 pm

If Shared Belief had lived- I bet he would have made some beautiful babies. :cry:
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Re: if the gelding had never happened

Postby Miss Woodford » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:49 pm

Ruffian_fan wrote:I always wondered about Perfect Drift, as a "sturdier" son of Dynaformer. Seems like those can be hard to come by, unfortunately.

Americain seems to be getting a good number of mares.
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