2017 Stallion Fees - Changes?

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Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:17 pm

bare it all wrote:I feel like there was another big name stallion that went private at some point because they took a huge dip in fee the following year. Smarty Jones maybe? Or maybe it was Forestry on the heels of him not being the sire people thought he'd be. It was something along those lines, though.
Yeah, you're thinking of Smarty Jones. He stood his 2005-2008 for $100,000, went private for 2009, then stood for an advertised fee of $10,000 in 2010 :shock:
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Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:09 pm

He's $5000 now.
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:26 am

What about Risque Remark :lol:
A filly named Ruffian...

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Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:41 am

That's Risque Remarque to you. :P :lol:
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:41 am

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:That's Risque Remarque to you. :P :lol:
I had seen conflicting spellings (or maybe my francophone brain refused to process the word 'remarque' beside 'risque' without the accent) :oops:
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:54 pm

Runhappy will stand for $25,000
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:29 pm

Northport wrote:Calumet has finally dropped the fees on almost all of their stallions - except Americain and Oxbow, who got bumps before their first crops have hit the track.

English Channel $25,000 ($25,000)
Oxbow $20,000 ($17,500)
Big Blue Kitten - NEW $15,000
Americain $10,000 ($7,500)
Red Rocks $10,000 ($12,500)
Smarty Jones $7,500 ($7,500)
Aikenite $5,000 ($7,500)
Grey Swallow $5,000 ($7,500)
Musketier $5,000 ($7,500)
Optimizer - NEW $5,000
Point Given $5,000 ($7,500)
Raison D’Etat $5,000 ($7,500)
Ready’s Image $5,000 ($7,500)
Real Solution $5,000 ($7,500)
Slumber - NEW $5,000
War Correspondent - NEW $5,000
Eye of the Leopard $2,500 ($7,500)
Snapy Halo $2,500 ($7,500)
Would love to see the Americian's light the world on fire. If I had a mare, would send to him or Musketier- love both of them.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:39 pm

Nicole Russo ‏@DRFRusso
.@HillnDaleFarm announces that globe-trotting MG1W Flintshire to debut for 20K stud fee in 2017.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:10 pm

Even as a turf horse, that's lower than I thought they'd put him. I figured around $30k or so.
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:29 pm

Yeah, seems like a bargain to me. I wish him well. I've always loved turf racing but, for his sake, I hope he throws dirt runners too.

International Powerhouses Juddmonte, China Horse Club, SF Bloodstock and Hill 'n' Dale form coalition to stand Global Superstar Flintshire
http://www.hillndalefarms.com/flintshire/
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:31 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote:Nicole Russo ‏@DRFRusso
.@HillnDaleFarm announces that globe-trotting MG1W Flintshire to debut for 20K stud fee in 2017.
For a racehorse of that calibre, that seems like a steal. Yeah he is a turf horse standing in America, but his pedigree is pretty stellar
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Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:26 pm

How much of a new stallion's fee is set by demand rather than race record or pedigree?
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Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:36 pm

I'd assume it plays a decently big part if it's a farm who cares about getting big numbers for the first book (which is probably at least every big farm in Kentucky).
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Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:51 pm

Mel Mae wrote:I'd assume it plays a decently big part if it's a farm who cares about getting big numbers for the first book (which is probably at least every big farm in Kentucky).
Wow, I really didn't word that right.

How much does "pre-retirement" demand play? Or better yet, do people start calling the farm/partnerships that own stallions before they retire and say "I want him next year!! I'll pay $X!" Or does the farm/partnership query to interested parties what they would pay to breed to him?
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Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:56 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote:Craig Bernick ‏@Craig_Bernick
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3 mares to Flintshire. Glad he's getting some support.
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Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:10 pm

Shadai's Deep Impact to stand for ¥30m in 2017
SHADAI Stallion Station has released the 2017 fees for its near 30-strong roster. Champion racehorse Deep Impact, who sired this year's impressive Prix d'Ispahan winner A Shin Hikari, has been confirmed at a fee of ¥30 million (£214,000/€252,000) and is already fully booked for the season.

The 2015 Japanese Derby hero Duramente also has a full book of mares for his first season at Shadai at a fee of ¥4m (£28,6o0/€33,500).

Two other fully-booked stallions include King Kamehameha, a son of Kingmambo, who remains at ¥10m (£71,500/€83,900), while Rulership, a son of King Kamehameha who leads the first season sire standings, has had his fee increased from ¥3m to ¥4m (£28,6o0/€33,500).

Deep Impact covered a book of 230 broodmares in 2016. Five other Shadai sires had a book of up to 200 mares.
More: http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra ... t7DaysNews
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Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:01 pm

Visited American Pharoah last week and someone on the tour asked about his stud fee. The young lady giving the tour didn't respond with Private, but what I will take as the actual number. He is definitely not Galileo-like Private. :shock:

Someone also asked if he would be running in the Breeders Cup again. Love it.
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Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:43 am

Dutchess Views Lowers Fee for Big Brown
Big Brown (Boundary—Mien, by Nureyev), the sire of grade I stakes winner Dortmund and also represented this season by grade II winner Kiss To Remember, will be offered for $7,500 after standing for a $10,000 fee in 2016. He ranks fourth on the New York sire list this year, and nationally is represented by 77 winners from 164 starters, with four stakes winners and a graded stakes winner.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... -big-brown
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Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:53 am

The 2017 fees for Darley’s stallions in Japan are as follows:

Pyro Pulpit – Wild Vision (Wild Again) ¥2.5million
King’s Best Kingmambo – Allegretta (Lombard) ¥2.0million
Admire Moon End Sweep – My Katies (Sunday Silence) ¥1.5million
(New) Discreet Cat Forestry – Pretty Discreet (Private Account) ¥1.5million
Monterosso Dubawi – Porto Roca (Barathea) ¥1.5million
Furioso Brian’s Time – Fursa (Mr Prospector) ¥0.5million

So happy for Pyro!
Pyro, now a proven stallion, is ever more popular with his high ratio of winners to runners. Japan’s leading sire of two-year-olds (and second only to Dark Angel in the entire northern hemisphere), his fee for 2017 will be 2.5 million yen.
https://www.darley.co.jp/news/darley-ja ... 017-season
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