Keeneland September (12-25) Yearling Sale

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A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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K.O.I.D. Co. Ltd bought the half brother to Saint Liam, by Giant's Causeway - Quiet Dance, by Quiet American, for $27,000. I'm disappointed I won't be able to follow his racing career, but happy for Korean racing. I hope he does well for them.
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Sparrow Castle wrote:K.O.I.D. Co. Ltd bought the half brother to Saint Liam, by Giant's Causeway - Quiet Dance, by Quiet American, for $27,000. I'm disappointed I won't be able to follow his racing career, but happy for Korean racing. I hope he does well for them.
This site maybe helpful in following him. Korea has imported 180 US two year olds so far in 2016.

https://korearacing.live/tag/korea-racing-authority/
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Ziggypop wrote:
Sparrow Castle wrote:K.O.I.D. Co. Ltd bought the half brother to Saint Liam, by Giant's Causeway - Quiet Dance, by Quiet American, for $27,000. I'm disappointed I won't be able to follow his racing career, but happy for Korean racing. I hope he does well for them.
This site maybe helpful in following him. Korea has imported 180 US two year olds so far in 2016.

https://korearacing.live/tag/korea-racing-authority/
Thanks. It will be a lot harder. He doesn't even have a name yet.
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Sparrow Castle wrote:
Ziggypop wrote:
Sparrow Castle wrote:K.O.I.D. Co. Ltd bought the half brother to Saint Liam, by Giant's Causeway - Quiet Dance, by Quiet American, for $27,000. I'm disappointed I won't be able to follow his racing career, but happy for Korean racing. I hope he does well for them.
This site maybe helpful in following him. Korea has imported 180 US two year olds so far in 2016.

https://korearacing.live/tag/korea-racing-authority/
Thanks. It will be a lot harder. He doesn't even have a name yet.
http://studbook.kra.co.kr/eng/html/eng_rhr_list.jsp
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So far only 5 of the horses I always have a little sadness for... the RNA (0) group. I always wonder what the story is behind the lack of bid and where these babies end up.

http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep16/pdfs/638.pdf
http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep16/pdfs/1001.pdf
http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep16/pdfs/2423.pdf
http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep16/pdfs/1770.pdf
http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep16/pdfs/1710.pdf
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Yearling average trends among top sires.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... -top-sires
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Sparrow Castle wrote:
Ziggypop wrote:
Sparrow Castle wrote:K.O.I.D. Co. Ltd bought the half brother to Saint Liam, by Giant's Causeway - Quiet Dance, by Quiet American, for $27,000. I'm disappointed I won't be able to follow his racing career, but happy for Korean racing. I hope he does well for them.
This site maybe helpful in following him. Korea has imported 180 US two year olds so far in 2016.

https://korearacing.live/tag/korea-racing-authority/
Thanks. It will be a lot harder. He doesn't even have a name yet.
You can go to the Studbook, and they will list import date, sire and dam, and eventually their name.
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Another RNA-0 popped up and this one makes me sad.

Hip 3552 F Tiz Wonderful x Wood of Binn. Wood of Binn (dam of Three Wonders, if anyone remembers him) was 24 when she dropped this filly, bless her heart. I'm sure they wouldn't have bred her if she wasn't in good shape, but man that's up there for a mare. Hope this was it for her and she's still out kicking around a field somewhere.

But again, a filly half to a stakes winner (albeit pretty minor...) How bad did she look?? There's a Jersey Town filly out of a sister to Quintons Gold Rush (remember that gorgeous blazed boy? ugh) that was a ) bid also.
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bare it all wrote:So far only 5 of the horses I always have a little sadness for... the RNA (0) group. I always wonder what the story is behind the lack of bid and where these babies end up.

http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep16/pdfs/638.pdf
http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep16/pdfs/1001.pdf
http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep16/pdfs/2423.pdf
http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep16/pdfs/1770.pdf
http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Sep16/pdfs/1710.pdf
I am so glad to see this post. I was thinking much the same and feared I might be the only one who felt this way. It makes me very nervous where they will end up.
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bare it all wrote:Another RNA-0 popped up and this one makes me sad.
Raison d'Etat x Colonial Empress (the filly that Wayne Lukas ran in the KY Oaks as a maiden in 2012) had her filly RNA at $1k. At least she got one bid, I guess? I even felt sorry for Colonial Empress on the track. She raced 13 times in 11 months with 1 win--she broke her maiden in her 11th start.
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Question regarding the hip numbers.

At times there looks to be smaller, colored tags attached to the hip numbers on some of the horses. I just saw a yellow one, but have also seen green and red.

Will someone please tell me what they represent?

Thank you kindly, in advance!
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Ziggypop wrote:Question regarding the hip numbers.

At times there looks to be smaller, colored tags attached to the hip numbers on some of the horses. I just saw a yellow one, but have also seen green and red.

Will someone please tell me what they represent?

Thank you kindly, in advance!
It can be an update sticker to prompt buyers to ask the consignor about updates to the horse's page since the catalog was printed.
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mariasmon wrote:
Ziggypop wrote:Question regarding the hip numbers.

At times there looks to be smaller, colored tags attached to the hip numbers on some of the horses. I just saw a yellow one, but have also seen green and red.

Will someone please tell me what they represent?

Thank you kindly, in advance!
It can be an update sticker to prompt buyers to ask the consignor about updates to the horse's page since the catalog was printed.
Thanks!
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Sometimes the one bid horses are the consignor or the consignor's friend bidding to a) get the bidding started or 2) bring the horse home again so the meat men will not try to negotiate for the horse.

I have taken home several "no bids". Often the sellers are grateful to have it go to a good home. One I took home was later "World Champion" at the Quarter Horse Congress in English Pleasure (no, I have no idea how a TB qualifies for Congress, but I was sent the picture of the horse with all the swag around him and the huge ribbon around his neck).

The other one became a famous (in its circle) polo pony and was bought by Argentine polo players for $50,000.

The first one got no bids because he was really back at the knees. But that is what made him such an incredible mover and he has stayed sound for at least 14 years by only doing very slow walk, jog and lope. The second one was small and had an ugly ewe neck; polo players think both traits are a plus.

I am sure that some of them come to bad ends, but they are not throw away horses just because they are not wanted in the racing world.
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Lord Helpus wrote:Sometimes the one bid horses are the consignor or the consignor's friend bidding to a) get the bidding started or 2) bring the horse home again so the meat men will not try to negotiate for the horse.

I have taken home several "no bids". Often the sellers are grateful to have it go to a good home. One I took home was later "World Champion" at the Quarter Horse Congress in English Pleasure (no, I have no idea how a TB qualifies for Congress, but I was sent the picture of the horse with all the swag around him and the huge ribbon around his neck).

The other one became a famous (in its circle) polo pony and was bought by Argentine polo players for $50,000.

The first one got no bids because he was really back at the knees. But that is what made him such an incredible mover and he has stayed sound for at least 14 years by only doing very slow walk, jog and lope. The second one was small and had an ugly ewe neck; polo players think both traits are a plus.

I am sure that some of them come to bad ends, but they are not throw away horses just because they are not wanted in the racing world.
Since TBs are accepted for breeding Appendixes and present in AQHA pedigrees, it would make sense that they can compete and qualify for congress too. I've noticed they're increasingly popular in the english disciplines on the AQHA breed circuit.
Glad both of those got a happy end.
Hoping these ones find their forever homes too.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Lord Helpus wrote:Sometimes the one bid horses are the consignor or the consignor's friend bidding to a) get the bidding started or 2) bring the horse home again so the meat men will not try to negotiate for the horse.

I have taken home several "no bids". Often the sellers are grateful to have it go to a good home. One I took home was later "World Champion" at the Quarter Horse Congress in English Pleasure (no, I have no idea how a TB qualifies for Congress, but I was sent the picture of the horse with all the swag around him and the huge ribbon around his neck).

The other one became a famous (in its circle) polo pony and was bought by Argentine polo players for $50,000.

The first one got no bids because he was really back at the knees. But that is what made him such an incredible mover and he has stayed sound for at least 14 years by only doing very slow walk, jog and lope. The second one was small and had an ugly ewe neck; polo players think both traits are a plus.

I am sure that some of them come to bad ends, but they are not throw away horses just because they are not wanted in the racing world.
So kill buyers hang around these sales?
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Ziggypop wrote:
Lord Helpus wrote:Sometimes the one bid horses are the consignor or the consignor's friend bidding to a) get the bidding started or 2) bring the horse home again so the meat men will not try to negotiate for the horse.

I have taken home several "no bids". Often the sellers are grateful to have it go to a good home. One I took home was later "World Champion" at the Quarter Horse Congress in English Pleasure (no, I have no idea how a TB qualifies for Congress, but I was sent the picture of the horse with all the swag around him and the huge ribbon around his neck).

The other one became a famous (in its circle) polo pony and was bought by Argentine polo players for $50,000.

The first one got no bids because he was really back at the knees. But that is what made him such an incredible mover and he has stayed sound for at least 14 years by only doing very slow walk, jog and lope. The second one was small and had an ugly ewe neck; polo players think both traits are a plus.

I am sure that some of them come to bad ends, but they are not throw away horses just because they are not wanted in the racing world.
So kill buyers hang around these sales?
No. They have a minimum sale price that keeps them away.
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Lord Helpus wrote:Sometimes the one bid horses are the consignor or the consignor's friend bidding to a) get the bidding started or 2) bring the horse home again so the meat men will not try to negotiate for the horse.

I have taken home several "no bids". Often the sellers are grateful to have it go to a good home. One I took home was later "World Champion" at the Quarter Horse Congress in English Pleasure (no, I have no idea how a TB qualifies for Congress, but I was sent the picture of the horse with all the swag around him and the huge ribbon around his neck).

The other one became a famous (in its circle) polo pony and was bought by Argentine polo players for $50,000.

The first one got no bids because he was really back at the knees. But that is what made him such an incredible mover and he has stayed sound for at least 14 years by only doing very slow walk, jog and lope. The second one was small and had an ugly ewe neck; polo players think both traits are a plus.

I am sure that some of them come to bad ends, but they are not throw away horses just because they are not wanted in the racing world.
I always assumed they went home or someone negotiated for them for another discipline, but it's sad knowing that someone paid to truck the horse in, paid the commission and spiffed that little guy or gal up to run through the sale ring and not a single bid was had. As I'm sure they are a proud owner/breeder I would feel heartbroken that my little foal that I put blood, sweat and tears into didn't even bring a minimum bid.
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Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:05 pm

Just looking through results based on stallions...

the Cape Blanco's must look terrible. Highest seller was 20K with the glut of them RNA or less than $5k. No wonder he's gone.

And who is breeding to Snapy Halo and trying to sell them? Eesh. Add Raison d'Etat to that. Eeeesh.

Really looking through, there are a bunch that just didn't get any love and I wish they did... Einstein mostly. And Hat Trick.

The only FuPeg in the sale sold for $1200. Remember he was the heir to the Mr Prospector fortune? and he's tied with Giacomo... another Derby winner, a single horse in the sale that also sold for $1200.

Into Mischief is hot. Like Hansel hot in Zoolander hot.

Jimmy Creed sold really well for what he is.

Keep Up (Unbridleds Song x Keeper Hill) had a nice trio sell... 17k, 12k, 35k

Kettle Corn!! One in the sale went for $35k

Did everyone who bred to Midnight Lute sell? Geeze.
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