Overpriced Stallions

Re: Overpriced Stallions

Postby Mel Mae » Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:26 pm

Giant's Causeway may not be a flashy stallion like the Tapits and Galileos of the world but he's definitely not overpriced. You have a live shot of getting a good horse every time you breed to him and he seems to always have live horses in the stakes ranks.
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Re: Overpriced Stallions

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:25 pm

On the subject of War Front:
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... ype-winner

Some of the comments seem to back the opinion that he may be overpriced, especially for a US-based stallion. I like the comparison to Freud, who also just had his 50th black-type winner, but who stands for one twentieth the cost of War Front. :P
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Re: Overpriced Stallions

Postby Starine » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:30 pm

Vandalay wrote:I nominate Super Saver,..He's $65K and being outperformed on the 3rd crop list by stallions that are a fraction of his fee


Dang. I didn't realize he was standing for that much.
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Re: Overpriced Stallions

Postby Acadiana » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:44 pm

Vandalay wrote:I nominate Super Saver,..He's $65K and being outperformed on the 3rd crop list by stallions that are a fraction of his fee


I agree. You can go to Tiznow for less at the same farm :lol:
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Re: Overpriced Stallions

Postby Miss Woodford » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:21 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:On the subject of War Front:
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... ype-winner

Some of the comments seem to back the opinion that he may be overpriced, especially for a US-based stallion. I like the comparison to Freud, who also just had his 50th black-type winner, but who stands for one twentieth the cost of War Front. :P

War Front is #30 on the leading sire list, between Northern Afleet ($6,500) and Bluegrass Cat ($7,500).
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Re: Overpriced Stallions

Postby Somnambulist » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:44 pm

For the longest time I thought Bernardini was, but I've sort of come around.
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Re: Overpriced Stallions

Postby Northport » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:07 pm

Somnambulist wrote:For the longest time I thought Bernardini was, but I've sort of come around.

Meh, I still think he was for 2012-2014. He got bumped from $75,000 in 2011 to $150,000 for 2012/2013 and then cooled wayyyyy down, but only got a drop to $100,000 in 2014
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Re: Overpriced Stallions

Postby Horsebagger » Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:27 am

Northport wrote:
Somnambulist wrote:For the longest time I thought Bernardini was, but I've sort of come around.

Meh, I still think he was for 2012-2014. He got bumped from $75,000 in 2011 to $150,000 for 2012/2013 and then cooled wayyyyy down, but only got a drop to $100,000 in 2014


He's (in my opinion) back to a more appropriate level now, and will likely use him this coming winter after having struck out a couple times (struck out = being outbid) trying to buy a yearling filly by him the past two years. Despite having some strong success with his offspring on the track, I continue to believe his greatest breeding impact will be as a broodmare sire.
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Re: Overpriced Stallions

Postby Insane Crazy » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:19 am

Horsebagger wrote:
Northport wrote:
Somnambulist wrote:For the longest time I thought Bernardini was, but I've sort of come around.

Meh, I still think he was for 2012-2014. He got bumped from $75,000 in 2011 to $150,000 for 2012/2013 and then cooled wayyyyy down, but only got a drop to $100,000 in 2014


He's (in my opinion) back to a more appropriate level now, and will likely use him this coming winter after having struck out a couple times (struck out = being outbid) trying to buy a yearling filly by him the past two years. Despite having some strong success with his offspring on the track, I continue to believe his greatest breeding impact will be as a broodmare sire.

Just curious, is there any particular reason for that? I've a soft spot for stallions whose legacy is stamped through their daughters, so I'm interested to hear your perspective.
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Re: Overpriced Stallions

Postby Horsebagger » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:53 pm

Insane Crazy wrote:Just curious, is there any particular reason for that? I've a soft spot for stallions whose legacy is stamped through their daughters, so I'm interested to hear your perspective.


I guess I would start out by saying he's got blue blood throughout, yet with a pedigree lacking in many modern day thoroughbred crosses typically found in our population here in the US. (i.e...No Storm Cat, primarily). His fillies are unlikely to be overburdened with multiple crosses too far up in their pedigree that will potentially prove more difficult to cross with their prospective stallions in future generations.
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