Matings 2017

Leading Freshmen Sire 2017 by number of winners

Animal Kingdom (Leroidesanimaux)
7
17%
Graydar (Unbridled's Song)
2
5%
Orb (Malibu Moon)
4
10%
Oxbow (Awesome Again)
1
2%
Paynter (Awesome Again)
2
5%
Point of Entry (Dynaformer)
1
2%
Shanghai Bobby (Harlan's Holiday)
6
14%
Take Charge Indy (A.P. Indy)
7
17%
Violence (Medaglia d'Oro)
9
21%
Other
3
7%
 
Total votes : 42

Re: Matings 2017

Postby mariasmon » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:51 am

bare it all wrote:I'm surprised at the amount of mares Raison d Etat saw. They're giving him a puncher's chance.


I don't really get it. He didn't even win a stakes race. I realize *PEDIGREE!!!* and all, but still. They've got stallions there who actually could run. And more power to them, breeding Dynaformer mares to Big Blue Kitten. Are they trying to build the perfect steeplechaser?
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Re: Matings 2017

Postby bare it all » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:24 pm

mariasmon wrote:
bare it all wrote:I'm surprised at the amount of mares Raison d Etat saw. They're giving him a puncher's chance.


I don't really get it. He didn't even win a stakes race. I realize *PEDIGREE!!!* and all, but still. They've got stallions there who actually could run. And more power to them, breeding Dynaformer mares to Big Blue Kitten. Are they trying to build the perfect steeplechaser?


100% agree. Is he much to look at? I don't get it at all, but it's their money and mares.

English Channel was a damned fine racehorse and I wish he'd get more/better. I wonder how he'd do in Europe.

As for BBK/Dynaformer, they desperately want the Melbourne Cup winner? :lol:
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Re: Matings 2017

Postby mariasmon » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:32 pm

bare it all wrote:
mariasmon wrote:
bare it all wrote:I'm surprised at the amount of mares Raison d Etat saw. They're giving him a puncher's chance.


I don't really get it. He didn't even win a stakes race. I realize *PEDIGREE!!!* and all, but still. They've got stallions there who actually could run. And more power to them, breeding Dynaformer mares to Big Blue Kitten. Are they trying to build the perfect steeplechaser?


100% agree. Is he much to look at? I don't get it at all, but it's their money and mares.

English Channel was a damned fine racehorse and I wish he'd get more/better. I wonder how he'd do in Europe.

As for BBK/Dynaformer, they desperately want the Melbourne Cup winner? :lol:


I haven't seen Raison d'Etat since he was running. He looked like the typical big-bodied A.P. Indy to me. I don't know how much corrective surgery Juddmonte does on their homebreds, but it would be interesting to know whether he had any procedures.
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Re: Matings 2017

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:58 pm

He's an attractive horse, but I'm guessing that Calumet is putting great faith in his pedigree shining through.
Since he entered stud in 2014, that means we should be getting to see his two-year-olds this year.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-regi ... ison-detat
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Re: Matings 2017

Postby mariasmon » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:07 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:He's an attractive horse, but I'm guessing that Calumet is putting great faith in his pedigree shining through.
Since he entered stud in 2014, that means we should be getting to see his two-year-olds this year.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-regi ... ison-detat


His first crop was only 19 horses, but he did have 36 foals last year. Looks like he's had 3 starters and no placings so far.
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Re: Matings 2017

Postby mariasmon » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:08 pm

A Z Warrior --> American Pharoah
Agave Kiss --> American Pharoah
Alittlebitearly (dam of Bayern) --> American Pharoah
Along (IRE) (Urban Sea family) --> Uncle Mo
Andujar --> Flatter
Apt (1/2 to Blame) --> Uncle Mo
Arch's Gal Edith (dam of I'll Have Another) --> Bernardini
Arienza --> American Pharoah
Arravale --> American Pharoah
Artemis Agrotera --> Uncle Mo
Awesome Surprise (full to Wilko) --> American Pharoah

Balance --> Uncle Mo
Be My Kitten (full to Stephanie's Kitten) --> We Miss Artie
Bon Jovi Girl --> American Pharoah
Bracelet (IRE) --> Uncle Mo
Bsharpsonata --> American Pharoah

Careless Jewel --> American Pharoah
Cherry Hinton (GB) (o/o Urban Sea, dam of Bracelet) --> American Pharoah
Chicquita (IRE) --> American Pharoah
Coffee Clique --> Uncle Mo
Crimson Palace (SAF) --> Munnings
Critical Eye --> Last Gunfighter
Cry and Catch Me --> Uncle Mo
Crystal Current (o/o Dream Supreme) --> Uncle Mo

Diamondsandrubies (IRE) --> Uncle Mo
Diplomat Lady --> Uncle Mo
Downthedustyroad --> Uncle Mo
Dreaming of Anna --> Uncle Mo

Emma's Encore --> American Pharoah
Empathy N Respect (o/o Better Than Honour) --> Uncle Mo
Ender's Sister (dam of A.P. Indian) --> Uncle Mo
Evening Jewel --> American Pharoah
Eye of the Sphynx --> Bernardini

Fiftyshadesofgold --> Uncle Mo
Figarie (o/o Flanders) --> Uncle Mo
Film Maker --> Uncle Mo
Flashy American --> American Pharoah
Fraulein (JPN) (o/o Lady Joanne) --> Declaration of War

Global Finance (dam of Acapulco) --> Uncle Mo
Golden Artemis (dam of My Conquestadory) --> American Pharoah
Golden Ballet --> Uncle Mo
Grace Hall --> Uncle Mo
Grosse Pointe Anne (1/2 to Uncle Mo) --> American Pharoah

Harmony Lodge --> Uncle Mo
Haysee (full to Lady Joanne) --> Uncle Mo

Indian Blessing --> American Pharoah

Jojo Warrior --> Uncle Mo

Keertana --> American Pharoah
Kitten's Dumplings --> American Pharoah

Leslie's Lady (dam of Into Mischief, Beholder) --> American Pharoah
Life Well Lived (dam of American Patriot, full to Well Armed) --> American Pharoah
Love Me Only (IRE) (half to Giant's Causeway) --> War Front
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Re: Matings 2017

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:17 pm

Be My Kitten (full to Stephanie's Kitten) --> We Miss Artie

I love El Prado's bloodline, but that's a lot, both top and bottom. And WME may be the least attractive El Prado-line horse I've seen. :(
They couldn't find a better stallion for a full to Stephanie's Kitten? :?
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-regi ... miss-artie
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Re: Matings 2017

Postby mariasmon » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:24 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Be My Kitten (full to Stephanie's Kitten) --> We Miss Artie

I love El Prado's bloodline, but that's a lot, both top and bottom. And WME may be the least attractive El Prado-line horse I've seen. :(
They couldn't find a better stallion for a full to Stephanie's Kitten? :?
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-regi ... miss-artie


I'm sure the common ownership was the primary factor. We Miss Artie's conformation pic is terrible. I've seen him at the track a few times and he's definitely not bad looking. His pasterns are too long and I'm not crazy about his neck. Other than that, I wouldn't knock him too much. I think the El Prado inbreeding on the resulting foal is a bit much.
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Re: Matings 2017

Postby mariasmon » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:43 pm

Above Perfection (dam of Always Dreaming, Hot Dixie Chick) --> Nyquist
Acey Deucey --> Frosted
Afleet Alexsis (full to Afleet Alex) --> Medaglia d'Oro
Al's Gal --> Medaglia d'Oro
All Due Respect --> Nyquist
Antics (1/2 to Arch, 3/4 to Acoma) --> Nyquist
Appealing Zophie --> Frosted
Ariege --> Street Boss
Aurelia's Belle --> Medaglia d'Oro
Away (dam of Eight Belles) --> Street Sense

Baghdaria --> American Pharoah
Balletto (UAE) --> Frosted
Bryan's Jewel --> Medaglia d'Oro

Cambiocorsa --> Medaglia d'Oro
Centre Court --> Medaglia d'Oro
Cindy's Hero --> Street Sense

Dame Dorothy --> Medaglia d'Oro
Dark Sky (full to Nebraska Tornado) --> Hard Spun
Dessert --> Street Sense
Dream Rush --> Medaglia d'Oro
Dreamtheimpossible (o/o Spain) --> Street Boss

Elloluv --> Animal Kingdom
Elusive Jackpot (o/o Silverbulletday) --> Hard Spun

Fjord (o/o Round Pond) --> Street Sense
Folklore --> Frosted
Friendly Michelle --> Nyquist

Goldena Podkove (o/o Get Lucky) --> Medaglia d'Oro

Hystericalady --> Frosted

Jessica Is Back --> Nyquist

Lemons Forever --> Medaglia d'Oro
Lotta Kim (dam of Rachel Alexandra) --> Medaglia d'Oro

Mistical Plan --> Frosted
Montaraz (1/2 to Monarchos) --> Girolamo

Oatsee (dam of Shackleford, etc.) --> Hard Spun
On Fire Baby --> Medaglia d'Oro

Quickest (dam of Callback) --> Frosted
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Re: Matings 2017

Postby Sparrow Castle » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:35 pm

mariasmon wrote:Lemons Forever --> Medaglia d'Oro

I guess this one will be named Forever Medaglia or Lemons Doro, lol.
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