LIVE: JRHA Select Sale 2016 at Northern Horse Park

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Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:14 pm

Is this Just a Way's first crop of foals? Hip 305 was a little cutie, very nicely put together. <3
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:24 pm

Hip 312 must have a nurse mare? Because unless I'm going blind(er), that is a Halflinger pony they led in with him. :?

ETA: And now 313 is all by herself...
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:58 pm

Hip 328 colt by Deep Impact x Elusive Wave brings $2.7million (just a bit more than the sales topper yearling colt yesterday). He was very nice looking but whoa!
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:03 pm

The Payton d'Oro & Ultra Blend colts aren't until way later, and I"m not really familiar with the rest of the mares, so I think I'm done for now... can't fathom paying two and a half million dollars for a *weanling*. Wow.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:12 pm

In case anyone was wondering how the Yoshida's can continue to afford to buy the best mares in the world, with it being estimated that they have spent over $100,000,000 in the last several years... it's because they made over 50% of the $79,000,000 USD in sales over two days in the yearling session alone at this year's Select Sale :shock: I mean, the average price of sale with 247 yearlings is $368,348 USD! The amount of money spent on bloodstock and purses in Japan never ceases to amaze me.

They may spend a ton of money, but I am willing to bet that the Yoshidas finish each year in the black :lol:
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:57 am

Northport wrote:In case anyone was wondering how the Yoshida's can continue to afford to buy the best mares in the world, with it being estimated that they have spent over $100,000,000 in the last several years... it's because they made over 50% of the $79,000,000 USD in sales over two days in the yearling session alone at this year's Select Sale :shock: I mean, the average price of sale with 247 yearlings is $368,348 USD! The amount of money spent on bloodstock and purses in Japan never ceases to amaze me.

They may spend a ton of money, but I am willing to bet that the Yoshidas finish each year in the black :lol:
This story from last year says while they have spent a ton of money, the mares pay for themselves with one or two foals sold.
http://bloodstock.racingpost.com/news/b ... g/1931155/
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:35 pm

Coolmore got outbid on the 2016 c. Deep Impact X Elusive Wave, by Elusive City, that sure doesn't happen often... though foals selling for $2,718,650 USD isn't a common occurrence either.

http://bloodstock.racingpost.com/news/b ... 17724/top/
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:52 pm

I was wondering if any of the big name (non-Japan) stables were there, I looked through the yearling buyers but only recognized Charles Fipke. Haven't looked through the foal results yet.

http://bloodstock.racingpost.com/news/b ... 17129/top/
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:30 pm

Northport wrote:Coolmore got outbid on the 2016 c. Deep Impact X Elusive Wave, by Elusive City, that sure doesn't happen often... though foals selling for $2,718,650 USD isn't a common occurrence either.

http://bloodstock.racingpost.com/news/b ... 17724/top/
That is pretty shocking indeed!
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:35 pm

The funny thing is, Coolmore actually sold the dam to Japan, in foal to Frankel
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mariasmon
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:06 pm

Starspangled wrote:The funny thing is, Coolmore actually sold the dam to Japan, in foal to Frankel
Had they been able to get him, it wouldn't have been the first time they bought the offspring of a mare they'd sold. They've also occasionally bought 2YOs that they'd previously sold as yearlings or weanlings.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:55 pm

Sometimes they sell without really selling !
They sell through one Coolmore entity to another Coolmore entity or stud farm they have an association with, then buy back the next year. It's a way of advertising their stallions and getting a big sale price on the horse's CV.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:30 pm

Starspangled wrote:Sometimes they sell without really selling !
They sell through one Coolmore entity to another Coolmore entity or stud farm they have an association with, then buy back the next year. It's a way of advertising their stallions and getting a big sale price on the horse's CV.
Wow! I didn't know they did that! :shock: That's pretty shady...
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:39 pm

carole wrote:
Starspangled wrote:Sometimes they sell without really selling !
They sell through one Coolmore entity to another Coolmore entity or stud farm they have an association with, then buy back the next year. It's a way of advertising their stallions and getting a big sale price on the horse's CV.
Wow! I didn't know they did that! :shock: That's pretty shady...
They're certainly not the only ones who do it. It's not unusual to run a horse through the ring and have your agent or trainer buy it back, but it shows up like a normal sale.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:50 pm

Heck, Zayat did it with Pharoah. If it's "sold" and not an RNA, it helps a stallion's sale's average. Coolmore definitely hasn't cornered the market on that.
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:12 pm

Starspangled wrote:Sometimes they sell without really selling !
They sell through one Coolmore entity to another Coolmore entity or stud farm they have an association with, then buy back the next year. It's a way of advertising their stallions and getting a big sale price on the horse's CV.
Yeah, it can be hard to keep track of sometimes because they have dozens - maybe hundreds? - of different syndicates that they list as breeders. But if you see Coolmore purchasing a yearling/weanling/2 y/o that was bred by Orpendale, Chelston, Wynatt, Southern Bloodstock, or "Broodmare name here" Syndicate, etc. then Coolmore owned the horse to begin with.
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:39 pm

My favorite Coolmore alias is Stamar, Zaki & Meditol. That's the ownership listed for Turbulent Descent.
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