Zenyatta News

Re: Zenyatta News

Postby Life At Zen » Wed May 09, 2018 6:49 pm

Kurenai wrote:Wasn't her due date around the 11th May? Plus she's always a few days late. If she aborted she gets this year off, no biggie.


Yup, May 11.
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Re: Zenyatta News

Postby lurkey mclurker » Wed May 09, 2018 7:32 pm

Life At Zen wrote:Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t 300 days the marker for whether it’s an abortion or an early foaling? She was confirmed pregnant in July, not sure when she was actually bred (edit: June 3rd). When would 300 days have been? (edit: March 30)

So, she aborted before her birthday, April 1?


But I thought there were pics up of her birthday this year, dated in April, and she looked like she had a foal belly in them... where is the shruggy emoji when you need it. This will have to do I suppose: :?: :?: :?:
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Re: Zenyatta News

Postby Flanders » Wed May 09, 2018 8:19 pm

https://thecasualgalloper.com/2018/03/17/visiting-zenyatta-a-dream-realized/ - photos taken in February. to me she looks bigger in the one pic here than she does from any of her birthday pics.

Regardless. They wouldn't note that she aborted a foal unless it was late in her pregnancy. Equineline/Jockey Club only takes note of that if there is going to be NO FOAL at all. It doesn't matter if she was bred to Into Mischief and slipped and then was rebred. They would only take note of the 2nd time. If there is a Broodmare Aborted listing on Equineline, there is no foal to be born this year.
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Re: Zenyatta News

Postby lurkey mclurker » Wed May 09, 2018 8:26 pm

Flanders is there ever a distinction between a foal born too early/stillborn and "aborted"? Could it maybe have been fairly recent, like the last week or two?
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Re: Zenyatta News

Postby Flanders » Wed May 09, 2018 8:37 pm

lurkey mclurker wrote:Flanders is there ever a distinction between a foal born too early/stillborn and "aborted"? Could it maybe have been fairly recent, like the last week or two?

The terms are interchangeable but its late term when those are used. Otherwise they use the term Slipped. So yes it could have been in the last 2 weeks.
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Re: Zenyatta News

Postby Sparrow Castle » Wed May 09, 2018 9:59 pm

No foal for Zenyatta in 2018
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Hall of Fame racemare Zenyatta's run of bad luck as a broodmare continues as, according to Equineline, the mare aborted her pregnancy to the cover of successful sire Into Mischief and thus will not have a foal in 2018.

Since being retired in time for the 2011 breeding season, Zenyatta has had only two foals to survive to racing age thus far, neither a winner on the track. Her first foal, Cozmic One, by Bernardini, went unplaced in five starts. He is now training as a hunter-jumper, aiming for the 2018 Retired Racehorse Project Thoroughbred Makeover. In 2013, Zenyatta produced Ziconic, by leading sire Tapit. He currently sports a racing record of 12-0-2-6; he last raced on Feb. 9, and last had a published work on March 13.

Zenyatta produced a filly by War Front in 2014, and was not bred back for the following season. The filly suffered an injury that proved fatal in a paddock accident later that fall, after she was weaned. Zenyatta delivered a War Front colt in 2016, who aspirated meconium during delivery, and survived only a few days.

Zenyatta delivered a Medaglia d'Oro filly on May 9, 2017 before being bred back to Into Mischief. The filly, now a yearling, has been reported to be in good health. She is boarded at Lane's End, where Zenyatta also resides.

https://live.drf.com/nuggets/42389-no-foal-for-zenyatta-in-2018
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Re: Zenyatta News

Postby lurkey mclurker » Wed May 09, 2018 10:31 pm

So... one would assume DRF confirmed with Lane's End before publishing, or would they just post a "hey look at what's on Equineline" piece without that extra confirmation?

(I'm not doubting it, just after reading some of the denial going on at the blog & social medias, wondering how it will be perceived...)
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Re: Zenyatta News

Postby Sparrow Castle » Wed May 09, 2018 10:32 pm

Nicole Russo @DRFRusso
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Hall of Fame racemare Zenyatta's run of bad luck as a broodmare continues; according to Equineline, mare aborted her pregnancy to the cover of Into Mischief and thus will not have a foal in 2018. https://live.drf.com/nuggets/42389-no-f ... ta-in-2018

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This is not meant as a challenge, but other sites have stated she slipped the first cover and was rebred. She looked pregnant in photos in April. Has it been confirmed she lost the foal since then? Just seems like a lot of conflicting information out there. If true, very sad.

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Re: Zenyatta News

Postby lurkey mclurker » Wed May 09, 2018 10:34 pm

And DRF answered that pretty definitively... thanks Flanders & SC. Such a shame. :(
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Re: Zenyatta News

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Thu May 10, 2018 12:25 am

Isn't it common for breeding contracts to include a "Stands & Nurses" clause? If there was in Zen's case, I presume she has the option to return to him next season to be re-bred.
I hope that happens, as I thought Zen's size/stamina with Into Mischief's speed/precocity was a good combo.
I also hope Z's MdO yearling filly has armed equine paramedics keeping an eagle eye on her, because she is rather rare and precious.
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