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Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:28 pm

South African Champion Soft Falling Rain Dies
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -rain-dies

I've searched online but couldn't find the cause of death. He was only nine.
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:22 pm

Starine wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:28 pm
South African Champion Soft Falling Rain Dies
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -rain-dies

I've searched online but couldn't find the cause of death. He was only nine.
All of the articles I read have no information on the cause of death, which is a bit concerning. Perhaps an accident in the shed?

He was a fun horse to follow. I'll never forget his first trip to Dubai, when he won the Godolphin Mile and immediately after, Mike De Kock said of Soft Falling Rain, "Champions pull through".
weeeeeeeee
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:00 pm

Izvestia wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:57 am
I’m saying what Curtis and Flanders are saying, but in different words... he was ruined, cooked, f**ked up from that huge effort in the Met Mile! He was never the same. Really incredible effort, but it did something to him. I never said he should not have been in the race, just that it ruined him. Clearly it did because he needed a long break, ran terrible in the BC, and spent the last half year in a lay-off/therapy, only to be retired. I like a trainer who can prolong a career and not have them run eyeballs out only to go off the grid.

Baffert did bizarrely the same thing to Arrogate.

Hoppertunity might be the greatest horse Baffert ever trained based on his ability to last... and Game on Dude too.
Baffert is certainly a “live in the moment” type of guy. Bayern is a good example. He could have put him in the Sprint in 2014 and he would have probably won it. Even though I think Goldencents is underrated and one of the better two-turn milers we’ve seen in a while, Bayern would have had a big shot in the Dirt Mile, that year. Had he done either of those things, Baffert could have spent the next year developing Bayern further and turned him into a 9-10f terror. Instead, he knew the horse was going good and elected for the Classic. After that effort, Bayern wasn’t just cooked but burned to a crisp. It’s just one of the things that needs to be understood before giving Baffert a horse. If immediate gratification is your thing, then Baffert’s your man.
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Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:54 am

Back on the subject of Kitten's Joy, and this is interesting news to me:

According to Hill 'n Dale's website, Kitten's Joy has 91 stakes winners, and a 58% rate of stakes horses. I've counted at least 10 GISW from memory. Got to wonder how many people besides Ramsey expected this/believed in him.
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Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:43 pm

Wonderful news, everyone! I did some snooping and found pictures of Swipe in Sweden! There’s a Facebook group about racing/breeding in Sweden. I’ll share them when I get home from class.
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Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:56 pm

IMHO, we need to give Ken a lot of credit for how well KJ has done, especially from his earlier crops when he was mainly supported by Ramsey's mares. IIRC, Ken was very careful about the mares he sent to his stallion; even if they were claimers, they 'had done something, and showed they could run.'
He also did very well choosing the bloodlines that would cross best with KJ and, as the years went on and the wins piled up, his choices were proven to be very smart. 8-)
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Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:59 pm

Cockney Rebel Moved to Batsford Stud in England

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloo ... n-england/
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Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:44 pm

Curtis wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:00 pm
Izvestia wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:57 am
I’m saying what Curtis and Flanders are saying, but in different words... he was ruined, cooked, f**ked up from that huge effort in the Met Mile! He was never the same. Really incredible effort, but it did something to him. I never said he should not have been in the race, just that it ruined him. Clearly it did because he needed a long break, ran terrible in the BC, and spent the last half year in a lay-off/therapy, only to be retired. I like a trainer who can prolong a career and not have them run eyeballs out only to go off the grid.

Baffert did bizarrely the same thing to Arrogate.

Hoppertunity might be the greatest horse Baffert ever trained based on his ability to last... and Game on Dude too.
Baffert is certainly a “live in the moment” type of guy. Bayern is a good example. He could have put him in the Sprint in 2014 and he would have probably won it. Even though I think Goldencents is underrated and one of the better two-turn milers we’ve seen in a while, Bayern would have had a big shot in the Dirt Mile, that year. Had he done either of those things, Baffert could have spent the next year developing Bayern further and turned him into a 9-10f terror. Instead, he knew the horse was going good and elected for the Classic. After that effort, Bayern wasn’t just cooked but burned to a crisp. It’s just one of the things that needs to be understood before giving Baffert a horse. If immediate gratification is your thing, then Baffert’s your man.
I am someone who can never trust Baffert given his past use of levothyroxine (thyroid) medication on all his horses and given the horses in his barn who died over a short period (approximately 2 deaths per month). From articles published at the time: The horses died from non-musculoskeletal incidents during or immediately after racing or training. The number was extraordinary: during the approximate time frame of the seven fatalities, Baffert accounted for 2.5% of all starts in California but 19.4% of the sudden deaths.

As much as I love horses and want to believe their on-track performances are the real deal, I have a very hard time trusting the records of any Baffert-trained horse.
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:56 am

Journey Ends in Deserved Retirement
Group I winning and producing stallion Good Journey has moved to Victoria - where one of his biggest fans will allow him to gently retire.

The Group I winning son of Nureyev has come over the border from Cornerstone Stud and will now call trainer-breeder David Brideoake's Roycevale property at Violet Town his home.

Brideoake has certainly been on a 'good journey' with the stallion. He was the sire of the Mornington trainer's first Group 1 winner in Grand Journey; and he was also the sire of Brideoake's homebred Group 1 winning mare Griante.

"Good Journey has played a major part in my success as a trainer, and it's nice that I can thank him and bring him home to happily live out his days. He is basically retired from stud duties, but he has been a lovely stallion," Brideoake said.

"He will now only cover my private broodmares, while enjoying his retirement well-cared for and well-loved."

The regally bred Good Journey came to Australia having won the Group 1 Woodbine Mile, another three Group 2 races and was also placed in the Group 1 Breeders Cup Mile.
More: https://www.breednet.com.au/news/5260/J ... Retirement
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:29 am

Swipe (Birdstone x Avalanche Lily) at Ravdansen Stud in Sweden.

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(Photos from Ravdansens Stuteri Facebook)
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:43 am

Swipe To Take Sweden To the Next Level

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/sw ... ext-level/

~ Interesting that the majority of the races are dirt. They seem to be modeling themselves after the U.S.A.
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:08 am

Ridan_Remembered wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:44 pm
Curtis wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:00 pm
Izvestia wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:57 am
I’m saying what Curtis and Flanders are saying, but in different words... he was ruined, cooked, f**ked up from that huge effort in the Met Mile! He was never the same. Really incredible effort, but it did something to him. I never said he should not have been in the race, just that it ruined him. Clearly it did because he needed a long break, ran terrible in the BC, and spent the last half year in a lay-off/therapy, only to be retired. I like a trainer who can prolong a career and not have them run eyeballs out only to go off the grid.

Baffert did bizarrely the same thing to Arrogate.

Hoppertunity might be the greatest horse Baffert ever trained based on his ability to last... and Game on Dude too.
Baffert is certainly a “live in the moment” type of guy. Bayern is a good example. He could have put him in the Sprint in 2014 and he would have probably won it. Even though I think Goldencents is underrated and one of the better two-turn milers we’ve seen in a while, Bayern would have had a big shot in the Dirt Mile, that year. Had he done either of those things, Baffert could have spent the next year developing Bayern further and turned him into a 9-10f terror. Instead, he knew the horse was going good and elected for the Classic. After that effort, Bayern wasn’t just cooked but burned to a crisp. It’s just one of the things that needs to be understood before giving Baffert a horse. If immediate gratification is your thing, then Baffert’s your man.
I am someone who can never trust Baffert given his past use of levothyroxine (thyroid) medication on all his horses and given the horses in his barn who died over a short period (approximately 2 deaths per month). From articles published at the time: The horses died from non-musculoskeletal incidents during or immediately after racing or training. The number was extraordinary: during the approximate time frame of the seven fatalities, Baffert accounted for 2.5% of all starts in California but 19.4% of the sudden deaths.

As much as I love horses and want to believe their on-track performances are the real deal, I have a very hard time trusting the records of any Baffert-trained horse.
Exactly.
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:30 pm

Westbury Stud in New Zealand have announced the passing of Postponed (USA) at the age of 21 after a short illness

https://mobile.twitter.com/WestburyStud ... 1353001984

You can tell how much they loved him in this tweet
Ask me any questions you have about New Zealand and Australia racing
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:02 am

Scat Daddy son Seahenge to take up stallion role in France
The ranks of stallion sons of Scat Daddy in Europe are growing again, as last year's Champagne Stakes winner Seahenge is joining the roster at Haras de la Haie Neuve in Brittany from next year.

A $750,000 Keeneland September yearling purchase by Coolmore, Seahenge was trained by Aidan O'Brien to win on his juvenile debut at Naas and later that season defeated Hey Gaman to take the Champagne Stakes before filling third position behind US Navy Flag in the Dewhurst.

This year at three Seahenge was third in the Listed Patton Stakes and was last seen finishing down the field in the Sword Dancer Stakes at Saratoga.

The colt was bred by K & G Stables out of the stakes winning Not For Love mare Fools In Love, a half-sister to Louisiana Derby winner International Star from the family of Group 2 winner and sire Van Nistelrooy.
More: https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/b ... nce/346748
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Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:39 am

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Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:06 am
South Vigorous(USA), 1996H. End Sweep(USA) x Darkest Star(USA) by Star de Naskra(USA), died of colic on March 4th 2018. :cry:

That's very sad news and a huge loss to the breeders in Japan, as he has been industry's most reliable sire for the dirt racing especially in the sprint races.
In the Japanese sire ranking in 2017, he was 10th overall and 2nd for dirt.
He covered 173 mares in 2017 and had been fully booked for this season.
May he rest in peace.

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http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000310467/
-- from uma-furusato.com news (Sep 18th)
https://uma-furusato.com/news/detail/_id_94940

The annual joint memorial service for the horses who had died in the Hidaka District was held at Oh-My-Horse Park, Shin Hidaka, Hokkaido on Sep 15th 2018.
And the tombstone of South Vigorous(USA) was newly built over there.

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Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:14 pm

Caraviaggio, Churchill Busiest New 2018 Sires in Europe

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -in-europe

~ True to Coolmore form, they both covered 200+ mares.
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I have many questions. Also a mild headache.
And gutted they've already decided to retire Mendelssohn... the same year as Justify, really? They must be real confident about the JCGC and the BCC... maybe the Pegasus. But I don't understand he's a mid-May foal, I'd give up my first born to see what he could do as a 4yo.

Edit: also where is Shanghai Bobby?
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:15 pm

Also really disappointed to see that they may retire Mendelssohn before he gets a chance to show how good he could be as a more mature, stronger four-year-old. I see the tiniest sliver of hope in that they have not listed a fee for him, although the likeliest explanation there is that they're waiting to see how he does in his last couple or races.
Along with 'Bobby, another name I don't see on that list is Astern. Wasn't that Aussie MdO colt brought north to stand at Ashford?
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Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:28 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:15 pm
Also really disappointed to see that they may retire Mendelssohn before he gets a chance to show how good he could be as a more mature, stronger four-year-old. I see the tiniest sliver of hope in that they have not listed a fee for him, although the likeliest explanation there is that they're waiting to see how he does in his last couple or races.
Along with 'Bobby, another name I don't see on that list is Astern. Wasn't that Aussie MdO colt brought north to stand at Ashford?
Darley has Astern. I guess he was their answer to Coolmore's Vancouver.
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