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Izvestia
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Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:58 pm

Glad to see Midnight Storm getting sone respect. Helluva horse!
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:42 pm

Darley‏ @DarleyStallions
Here's a closer look at #Astern, #MedagliadOro's best son, who joins the stallion roster at Jonabell Farm in Kentucky in 2018:
https://twitter.com/DarleyStallions/sta ... 0404800514
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:51 pm

Very handsome, and even more beautiful when in motion. MdO doesn't seem to ever sire ugly horses.
I found the Tattersall's videos below Astern's promo very interesting. Their large sales ring is a much better design than Keeneland's, IMHO. It lets the horses keep moving in a good-sized circle, and there is no auctioneer's podium intruding into their space for yearlings to run into when they spook. :oops:
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:18 pm

I've always preferred the setups that Goffs and Tatts have, especially when you have spooky/energetic foals/yearlings. It's also nice to see the horses walking if you didnt happened to find a video of them in the online catalogue.
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:45 pm

^^^I kind of have mixed feelings. But I've never been to view an auction with this setup. I agree it's nice to have them in a large walking ring with no podium for a horse to kick into. But I also like having them raised up a bit to more closely see their legs and body type even if big guys are sitting in front of me. I guess that's why we have separate walking rings at our auctions, although I usually plant myself in a front row for the auction.
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Greenpointcrusader Retired to Ocala Stud
rade 1 winner Greenpointcrusader, who captured the Champagne Stakes (G1) at 2, has been retired to stud and will stand his first season in 2018 at Ocala Stud in Central Florida, where he is now available for inspection. A fee will be announced at a later date.

"Greenpointcrusader was one of the best 2-year-olds of his crop, as evidenced by fast wins against Saratoga maiden company and then the grade 1 Champagne Stakes at Belmont," said Ocala Stud's J. Michael O'Farrell. "His 94 Beyer Speed Figure in the Champagne was as fast as Uncle Mo , and it's one of the fastest in the last decade from what is a marquee race for 2-year-olds.


"Greenpointcrusader has a tremendous stallion pedigree, with two of his brothers currently standing stud in Kentucky, and he's the only grade 1-winning 2-year-old out of his highly accomplished dam. There's a lot to like about this horse, and we believe breeders will really like him when they see him."

The son of Bernardini is out of the blue hen mare Ava Knowsthecode (Cryptoclearance), who has produced four other graded stakes winners—grade 1 winner and freshman sire Justin Phillip , who won the 2013 Alfred G. Vanderbilt Handicap (G1) and placed in four other grade 1s; grade 2 winner Keyed Entry, and grade 3 winners Successful Mission and Algorithms , who is a second-crop sire this year.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ocala-stud
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"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway', but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies."
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Announced today: G1 winner #Mastery to stand for $25K, Champion #Runhappy for $25K, and top sure #WarFront for $250K.
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Retrospectiv wrote:The Factor to Japan for 2018:


https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... n-for-2018
Interesting, one-year lease, sounds kind of unusual. They won't know much by then. He's quite the traveling boy.
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Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:23 am

am i the only one who thinks war front is a little over priced?
before anyone gets angry, i'm happy to learn more abt his stats relative to other stallions that stand/have stood in his price range, to get a better idea of if he is, actually, over priced. :oops:
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Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:19 am

sweettalk wrote:am i the only one who thinks war front is a little over priced?
before anyone gets angry, i'm happy to learn more abt his stats relative to other stallions that stand/have stood in his price range, to get a better idea of if he is, actually, over priced. :oops:
He isn't overpriced in my opinion. He has fantastic stats(11% Stakes winners to foals), he is routinely in the top couple stallions for stakes winners or graded stakes winners and sales yearlings.
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sweettalk wrote:am i the only one who thinks war front is a little over priced?
before anyone gets angry, i'm happy to learn more abt his stats relative to other stallions that stand/have stood in his price range, to get a better idea of if he is, actually, over priced. :oops:
Well, in 2017 he had the same number of G1 winners as Tapit did in 2016. In 2016 he was the #1 North American sire by SW (12%). Most importantly his yearlings sell like hot cakes, even his weanlings fetch high prices. His progeny performs overseas in a manner that keep the foreign buyers coming back with deep pockets, which motivates American breeders to pay said fee. At least in Europe his Winners-Runners in Euro stakes is 41% from basically the moment he entered stud to present day. And his worldwide G1 is 27%. Compare that to Sea the Stars who is 21% worldwide G1 and 35% Euro stakes. Frankel is currently at 6% for Worldwide G1s and and 43% for Euro stakes. Dubawi has a 45% Euro Stakes R-W rate and a 25% Worldwide G1 rate. And Galileo has a 25% Worldwide G1 rate with a 40% Euro Stakes rate. (Of course with Galileo his stats are made all the more impressive by the sheer number of runners he has). In fact when compared to the current top 10 Stallion rankings in Europe, of those I didn't name, only 2 had a Worldwide G1 rate over over 14%, and both were below 20%. I think all of those I didn't name had a euro stakes R-W under 35%.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

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Kincsem nevű kanca...


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Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:10 pm

Mastery to stand for $25k next season.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -at-25-000

25k feels like pushing it... but he must have gotten a lot of interest.
A filly named Ruffian...

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Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:21 pm

He has smaller foal crops than most of the other top flight stallions. Just comparing statistics from this year's general sire list, here are some stats:

War Front - 177 runners. 82 winners (46%), 18 black type stakes winner (10%), 10 graded stakes winners (6%), 5 G1 winners (3%). $250,000 stud fee.

Tapit - 258 runners. 122 winners (47%), 17 black type stakes winners (7%), 10 graded stakes winners (4%), 3 G1 winners (1%). $300,000 stud fee.

Medaglia d'Oro - 183 runners. 78 winners (43%), 13 black type stakes winners (7%), 8 graded stakes winners (4%), 5 G1 winners (3%). $150,000 stud fee.

Curlin - 180 runners. 98 winners (54%), 13 black type stakes winners (7%), 7 graded stakes winners (4%), 1 G1 winner. $150,000 stud fee.

Kitten's Joy - 317 runners. 151 winners (48%), 15 black type stakes winners (5%), 11 graded stakes winners (3%), 3 G1 winners (1%). $100,000 stud fee.

Speightstown - 237 runners. 129 winners (54%), 12 black type stakes winners (5%), 3 graded stakes winners (1%), no G1 winners. $100,00 stud fee.

Scat Daddy - 266 runners. 127 winners (48%), 23 black type stakes winners (9%), 13 graded stakes winners (5%), 4 G1 winners (2%). Died in 2015.
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Treve
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Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:38 pm

^ true his very limited book helps with his stats and increases demand by limiting supply. All factors that contribute to his fee.
As with anything but especially with thoroughbreds, the price is right if someone's willing to pay for it.
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Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:32 pm

Mastery at $25K is a little rich for my blood, especially considering you could get Candy Ride himself for $60K this year. I think if I was looking at Mastery, I'd be looking at Unified for $10K. I like Dixie Union on the dam side maybe more than Old Trieste. And does Gun Runner retire after BC this year or will they race him at 5? How much would he command?
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bare it all wrote:Mastery at $25K is a little rich for my blood, especially considering you could get Candy Ride himself for $60K this year. I think if I was looking at Mastery, I'd be looking at Unified for $10K. I like Dixie Union on the dam side maybe more than Old Trieste. And does Gun Runner retire after BC this year or will they race him at 5? How much would he command?
I feel similarly. Last I heard about Gun Runner comments were suggesting he could race on for another campaign. I would assume if he does well in the BCC he'd go to the PWC too and if they decide to keep him in training might attempt the DWC.
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Kincsem nevű kanca...


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Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:22 am

Gun Runner has s fantastic female family, and his race record speaks for itself. I'd say $50,000 at least for him.
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Izvestia wrote:Gun Runner has s fantastic female family, and his race record speaks for itself. I'd say $50,000 at least for him.
He also has unlike the other Candy Rides, and Candy Ride himself, the durability factor. If he keeps winning the big ones until his retirement then I think he could easily ask for 60k.
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Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


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Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:52 pm

If Candy Ride's fee goes up from $60k (which it has to, right?) then I could see Gun Runner going for $50k. I don't know if I can see him being much higher than that.
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Chrome has been big news in South America ever since the announcement that he would stand the southern hemisphere season in Chile. He's been featured on TV and in numerous print articles. Here's a recent example:

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