Stallion News

Re: Stallion News

Postby Diver52 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:12 pm

Life At Zen wrote:I cringed. CalBread?

Aside from that, I'm really sad he's leaving KY.


Hey, we're not Chile!

(Although frankly their pastures may be lusher.)
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Re: Stallion News

Postby lurkey mclurker » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:18 pm

(I think Zen was referring to the misspelling of "cal-bred" as "cal-bread" :lol: )

...does Chile have sun right now? Because then I would happily have us be Chile. Boo overcast/drizzle/fog.
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Re: Stallion News

Postby Ziggypop » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:22 pm

Diver52 wrote:
Life At Zen wrote:I cringed. CalBread?

Aside from that, I'm really sad he's leaving KY.


Hey, we're not Chile!

(Although frankly their pastures may be lusher.)
He always struck me he was kind of treated like
a red headed stepchild.
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Re: Stallion News

Postby Slewfan2 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:39 pm

Life At Zen wrote:I cringed. CalBread?

Aside from that, I'm really sad he's leaving KY.


Me, too. I guess Ashford considered him a bust? As a huge Bernardini fan, and as someone who loved Stay Thirsty when he ran even though most didn't, I'm upset about this.........Ok, I admit most of his offsprings success came at minor tracks, but he had Coal Front and Princess Karen.......

On a side note, I would say that Algorithms has been a successful sire - perhaps surprisingly so; am I right?
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Re: Stallion News

Postby Sparrow Castle » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:02 pm

Lots of spelling errors on Twitter. I typically ignore them.

Stay Thirsty's fee is $5,000. The West Coast is happy!

Stay Thirsty Sold to Lovacres Ranch
...Stay Thirsty, who will be the only son of Bernardini standing in California, will stand for $5,000. The stallion is expected to arrive in California either over the coming weekend or early next week....

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/224843/stay-thirsty-sold-to-lovacres-ranch
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Re: Stallion News

Postby Life At Zen » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:12 am

Ziggypop wrote:
Diver52 wrote:
Life At Zen wrote:I cringed. CalBread?

Aside from that, I'm really sad he's leaving KY.


Hey, we're not Chile!

(Although frankly their pastures may be lusher.)
He always struck me he was kind of treated like
a red headed stepchild.


Yes, this :(

He was always overshadowed by Uncle Mo.
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Re: Stallion News

Postby Sunline » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:19 am

I posted this in the memoriam 2017 thread but also decided it belongs in this thread as well.

Pentire(GB) dies at the age of 25,He stood at Rich Hill Stud in New Zealand.

http://www.richhillstud.co.nz/news/2017/11/2141746005/breeding-industry-loses-prolific-pentire

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Re: Stallion News

Postby Flanders » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:54 am

Slewfan2 wrote:
Life At Zen wrote:I cringed. CalBread?

Aside from that, I'm really sad he's leaving KY.


Me, too. I guess Ashford considered him a bust? As a huge Bernardini fan, and as someone who loved Stay Thirsty when he ran even though most didn't, I'm upset about this.........Ok, I admit most of his offsprings success came at minor tracks, but he had Coal Front and Princess Karen.......

On a side note, I would say that Algorithms has been a successful sire - perhaps surprisingly so; am I right?

I will start this by saying I really liked Stay Thirsty and wish he would have been more successful and maybe he can be in California. I'm going to be brutally honest though, I think Stay Thirsty, To Honor and Serve and Algorithms have been very disappointing. Algorithms looked really promising when he finished 2nd on the Freshman Sire list, unfortunately he hasn't really followed that up with much in 2017. Truly I'm shocked that To Honor And Serve wasn't the first of the 3 to leave Kentucky. He has only sired 1 Stakes Winner and none in 2017. Ultimately unless the other 2 get big horses I see them gone from Kentucky before the 2019 breeding season because in my opinion, Stay Thirsty was the best sire of the 3, because he had sired 2 GSWs.

Edit:
I wanted to add their 2017 report of mares bred to show that breeders feel the same way I would rank them.
Stay Thirsty - 65
Algorithms - 56
To Honor And Serve - 14
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Re: Stallion News

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:15 pm

Does Bernardini have any sons who are proving themselves as good sires?
If not, it would appear that Bernardini has disappointed, considering how high his stud fee was...and still is, IIRC. Looks like he may not establish his own A.P. Indy bloodline. :?
Tapit is still on top there.
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Re: Stallion News

Postby Slewfan2 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:42 pm

I don’t know Algorithms numbers, but keep in mind that he was pretty much forgotten after his early retirement and probably wasn’t bred to that many mares. I still love him.

I wonder if Bernardini might be an excellent broodmare sire rather than a sire of sires. He’s off to a very promising start in that regard - and Indy is a terrific broodmare sire. Another good racing son, Wilburn, was a failure. Ugh, I hate to say this....but it’s so. I’ll hang my hat on his daughters.
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