Stallion News

Re: Stallion News

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:10 am

IMHO, Mr. Ramsey might want to step back and decide what is most important for Kitten's Joy and/or for himself.
Does he want to create the greatest profit from the horse's career, which might justify the present fee? Or does he want to ensure a great legacy for the stallion, with the highest QUALITY in his offspring? That would need to especially apply to his colts, as being a sire of sires is the hallmark of a great stallion.
If it's about the money, then just massage the fees for max profit. Maybe listen to the advice about how better mares will raise sales prices? ;) :P
But if it's about KJ's legacy, then maybe creating a partnership with someone who could bring more high quality mares to KJ would make sense...even if it means that Ken gives up part ownership.
If that means a move to a top European farm, that could be helpful; it would surely provide access to better grass mares. I wonder how many weren't sent to him, even if the owners wanted to breed to KJ, because shipping a valuable mare across the Atlantic was not appealing. If he's just a van ride down the road or across the Chunnel, that might be appealing.
Just thinking...
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Re: Stallion News

Postby Horsebagger » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:56 pm

Any interested euro parties must have scoffed at the price he was demanding, right?
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Re: Stallion News

Postby Somnambulist » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:13 pm

Horsebagger wrote:Any interested euro parties must have scoffed at the price he was demanding, right?


Surely.

The beauty of his well spun PR tale is underappreciated.
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Re: Stallion News

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:27 pm

I forgot to add to my post that a move to Europe would have necessitated a drop in fee to be more in line with Euro stud prices. He has to compete with Galileo, Frankel and Dubawi, so being an attractively-price alternative needs to be part of the move.
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Re: Stallion News

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:23 pm

Frank Stronach is selling Adena Springs, which may mean that stallions like Awesome Again, Fort Larned, Ghostzapper, Mucho Macho Man and Macho Uno will be moving to new homes.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... p-for-sale
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Re: Stallion News

Postby sweettalk » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:26 pm

i'd be sick if some lousy strip mall developer bought it...
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Re: Stallion News

Postby Sparrow Castle » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:39 pm

Glad to see Stronach's plan includes improving the breeding and racing industry in California. They need improving. But, not that I'd expect him to establish a stud farm in Oregon or Washington, I wish every once in awhile he'd at least mention that he also owns Portland Meadows.

Stronach To Put Adena Springs Up for Sale
...While Stronach still has many decisions to make concerning the overall direction the Adena Springs operation will take, one thing is clear: its future will more and more be in Maryland and California and less in Kentucky. Adena Springs is already a major breeder in Florida. Stronach owns racetracks in California (Santa Anita and Golden Gate Fields), in Maryland (Laurel and Pimlico) and in Florida (Gulftstream). He does not own a racetrack in Kentucky.

“That is the bottom line, what can I do to help racing in California and in Maryland?” he said. “I have to get better bloodlines there and better stallions.”

Adena Springs stands a number of top stallions in Kentucky, including Awesome Again and Ghostzapper, and Stronach said that all are candidates to be moved to other states. When asked if his best stallions may wind up in California or, perhaps, Maryland, he replied: “That’s quite possible. Absolutely.” He also said he would look to acquire new stallions to bolster his future operations in Maryland and California. If any Adena stallions are moved out of Kentucky, Stronach said the earliest that will happen will be after the 2018 breeding season.

More: http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/stronach-to-put-adena-springs-up-for-sale/
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Re: Stallion News

Postby Natalma » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:00 pm

Kitten's Joy going to Hill N Dale. The farm purchased 50% interest. Can't wait to see what this stallion can do with a top quality book.
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Re: Stallion News

Postby starrydreamer » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:02 pm

Natalma wrote:Kitten's Joy going to Hill N Dale. The farm purchased 50% interest. Can't wait to see what this stallion can do with a top quality book.


Judging from his offspring from the high quality mares he had been getting, they should be pretty good.

Ramsey is selling a decent amount of broodmares. Have I missed anything about money problems?
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Re: Stallion News

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:49 pm

It's possible that, for KJ to get the support he needed from a top farm, selling a sizable percentage of the horse was something that had to happen. I've haven't read anything about money problems, but Ken is getting up there in years.
Also not surprising that he's trimming his broodmare band. Heck, even Godolphin has sold a good many of their mares, and I'm pretty sure Sheikh Mo is NOT having money problems. :lol:

ETA: I see that KJ's fee is dropping to $60,000 at HnD. A sensible move, IMO.
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