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Re: The WAR HORSE Chronicles

PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:40 pm
by WarBiscuit
Northport wrote:
Catalina wrote:
Northport wrote:Another good showing for Reynaldo, just got pipped by Comicas at the line and ended up 3rd in the G3 in the Al Shindagha Sprint. The race was unfortunately marred by Scrutineer breaking down in the home straight.

There's a lot of anger on Twitter, as this was Scrutineer's 7th race in 4 months, but not a lot of people are factoring that Emirati season only runs November-March.


I don't quite understand your comment. What's there to factor in?

Raced Feb 8 ----- DNF
Raced Feb 3 ----- Won
Raced Jan 20-----7th
Raced Jan 4 -----2nd

Trainer A. Al Rayhi (same as Mushaakis earlier this week)


The horses race 2-3 times a month during the racing season (whether they are trained by Al Rayhi, Doug Watson, Mike De Kock, etc.), then are off April-October. When all is said and done, at the end of a calendar year, I personally wouldn't count many of those horses as over raced.


I think the concern is not so much the tally at the end of the calendar year, but rather horses racing too many times within a short period of time. The angry folks are probably focused on that five day span between his last races. I tend to be a bit more wary when some of the 10-13 year olds I follow are raced once and possibly twice during a seven day period. Depends on the conditioning of the horse, but I've occasionally seen that argument reach its limit to the point of becoming abusive. Everything in moderation - even racing horses...

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Re: The WAR HORSE Chronicles

PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:28 pm
by Northport
I can definitely understand the whole situation from that angle. I also didn't know that it Al Rayhi who trained Mushaakis, who also broke down, which does make the whole thing a bit more suspect.

Re: The WAR HORSE Chronicles

PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:38 pm
by Starine

Re: The WAR HORSE Chronicles

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:03 am
by Miss Woodford
Classic Wildcat finished 2nd beaten by 7 3/4 lengths, on February 9, 2018, at LAUREL PARK in Race 4.
Off odds: 4.00
http://www.equibase.com/static/chart/pd ... 18USA4.pdf

Re: "overracing" horses, even racing a week apart isn't "abusive" for a horse in peak fitness. Running doubles or even triples during Royal Ascot and other major festivals in England and the rest of Europe is still relatively common.The Tatling raced off rest as short as 2 days even in his G1 days and continued to do so as he ran in the handicap ranks until age 14. This does of course require a trainer familiar with conditioning a horse to run on short rest, and perhaps Mr. Al Rayhi is not.

Re: The WAR HORSE Chronicles

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:10 am
by Catalina
WarBiscuit wrote:
Northport wrote:
Catalina wrote:
I don't quite understand your comment. What's there to factor in?

Raced Feb 8 ----- DNF
Raced Feb 3 ----- Won
Raced Jan 20-----7th
Raced Jan 4 -----2nd

Trainer A. Al Rayhi (same as Mushaakis earlier this week)


The horses race 2-3 times a month during the racing season (whether they are trained by Al Rayhi, Doug Watson, Mike De Kock, etc.), then are off April-October. When all is said and done, at the end of a calendar year, I personally wouldn't count many of those horses as over raced.


I think the concern is not so much the tally at the end of the calendar year, but rather horses racing too many times within a short period of time. The angry folks are probably focused on that five day span between his last races. I tend to be a bit more wary when some of the 10-13 year olds I follow are raced once and possibly twice during a seven day period. Depends on the conditioning of the horse, but I've occasionally seen that argument reach its limit to the point of becoming abusive. Everything in moderation - even racing horses...

WarBiscuit


Exactly. Some of the anger may also have come from how the whole thing went down. Scrutineer was actually doing quite well until the eventual winner started a strong closing run and went flying past by him, at which point Scrutineer's jockey started whipping his mount, at about the same time Scrutineer's tail seemed to be acting...weird, so I assume that was the time the breakdown had started. I must also assume that the jockey only belatedly noticed what was happening. Video of the race is on horseracingnation.com

Re: The WAR HORSE Chronicles

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:50 am
by WarBiscuit
Good 'ol Dance Caller still on top of his game.

www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/article ... -at-age-12


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Re: The WAR HORSE Chronicles

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:37 pm
by WarBiscuit
Millionaire Slim Shadey, who finished his 2017 season in fine fashion, begins his 10yo season at Gulfstream this Saturday in the Old Man Eloquent Stakes.

$60,000 Purse - 1 and 1/16 Miles - Race 7 - 3:04 pm

Good luck SS!

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Re: The WAR HORSE Chronicles

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:36 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
I wonder if he has mellowed in his older years? If you've never seen the video taken while he was still in Britain, it's a stunning example of just how accurate a horse's kick can be.
He was being walked around the parade ring before his race and he apparently took a dislike to a video cameraman filming him. When Slim' got level with him, he nailed the camera with a perfectly aimed, sideways hind leg. Knocked the man flying, and that dude was fortunate the horse made contact with the lens and not his face. :shock:

Re: The WAR HORSE Chronicles

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:21 pm
by WarBiscuit
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I wonder if he has mellowed in his older years? If you've never seen the video taken while he was still in Britain, it's a stunning example of just how accurate a horse's kick can be.
He was being walked around the parade ring before his race and he apparently took a dislike to a video cameraman filming him. When Slim' got level with him, he nailed the camera with a perfectly aimed, sideways hind leg. Knocked the man flying, and that dude was fortunate the horse made contact with the lens and not his face. :shock:


Yikes - no, I didn't know about that. Talk about precision kicking! Could easily have been fatal. Have to say, however, that I appreciate his disdain for the media...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAuLjUSjlYA

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Re: The WAR HORSE Chronicles

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:03 pm
by WarBiscuit
WarBiscuit wrote:Millionaire Slim Shadey, who finished his 2017 season in fine fashion, begins his 10yo season at Gulfstream this Saturday in the Old Man Eloquent Stakes.

$60,000 Purse - 1 and 1/16 Miles - Race 7 - 3:04 pm

Good luck SS!

WarBiscuit


The old man still has it - came in 2nd, just nipped at the wire. Nice race.

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