2018 Royal Ascot

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Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:11 pm

Somnambulist wrote:
Tessablue wrote:That was a really good effort by Yoshida to finish a pretty close fifth behind longshot winner Accidental Agent. He's a very nice horse.
Run 5th for pennies or run over here in the Manhattan for possible several hundred thousand. Ok.

I know WinStar is the pinnacle of a stallion business and is very profit motivated, but they have a nice horse and wanted to run it across the pond in a prestigious race at one of most prestigious meets in the world. I don't think they will miss the $30k spent to enter/ship the horse to England to run in a race worth $1,131,000USD versus staying at home for a $1,000,000USD race.

I don't think he disgraced himself and I don't understand how it is a bad thing to see American horses racing across the globe. Especially when they are owned by farms/people/corporations that have millions to spare.
weeeeeeeee
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Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:27 am

I'd be curious to hear how AidenOBrien feels about a global racing czar instituting coupled wagering to protect the interests of the punter?

(with reference to our recent Belmont Stakes and the public outcry here)
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:57 pm

Racing is much different in Europe: they start slow and finish fast--- I can see why Gronkowski broke slowly-
in America they bust out of the gate-----
the race calling is much different as well-- in these European races I was hardly aware the race started: very flat affect for half the race, then the horses get going and the race calling picks up in intensity. I kinda like "and they're off"-----
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Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:32 pm

Who do you like in the Gold Cup?

Order of St George and Stradivarius seem to be vying for favoritism but personally I fancy Vazirabad. I think he is as sharp as he has ever been.
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Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:52 pm

^^^Working my way to the Gold Cup, but Order of St. George has been a personal favorite of mine since 2015, based on his pedigree. By Galileo and I love his dam side (Another Storm).

Jeff Siegel @jsiegelracing
Black Book Alert - Shang Shang Shang faces colts Thursday in the Norfolk Stakes (9:30 a.m. ET) at Royal Ascot. We featured the Wesley Ward-trained filly in a segment following her maiden win at Keeneland in late April.
https://twitter.com/jsiegelracing/statu ... 8690758656
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:40 am

IIRC, Shangx3 had been working evenly with another Ward filly, Chelsea Cloisters, who ended up 11th in the Queen Mary today. Doesn't exactly give me a lot of confidence in Shangx3. :?
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:03 am

Hoping Shang Shang Shang breaks better than Chelsea Cloister. I'd love it if Shanghai Bobby had a Royal Ascot winner this year. He was such a stunning juvenile; was in awe of him at the Breeders' Cup.
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:37 am

the filly Shang Shang Shang wins the Norfolk by a whisker! good for her---
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:40 am

that was fun to watch! cheering for her - good girl - she did it! happy for the filly and for joel and ward!
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:44 am

luvsgeldings wrote:that was fun to watch! cheering for her - good girl - she did it! happy for the filly and for joel and ward!

and for Shanghai Bobby!
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:54 am

yes for sure - that is wonderful for shanghai bobby!!

does anyone know.... the silks on the horse that came in second in the Norfolk, they looked like the b wayne hughes silks - but with different color sleeves - is he an owner of that horse?
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:05 am

luvsgeldings wrote:yes for sure - that is wonderful for shanghai bobby!!

does anyone know.... the silks on the horse that came in second in the Norfolk, they looked like the b wayne hughes silks - but with different color sleeves - is he an owner of that horse?
No
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:15 am

thank you!
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:42 pm

Very happy the filly Shang Shang Shang got this win! She punched her ticket to the BC Juvenile Turf Sprint. And what a great run to finish 2nd by Dialed In's Pocket Dynamo, who was bought at the Keeneland September 2017 sale for $35k and went unsold a week ago at the London sale for $170k.
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:51 pm

Glad to know that Ward will go home with at least one winner. He really brings quite a few over every year so I like to see him rewarded for his endeavors. And goodness, he's so good with young horses.
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Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:10 pm

Earlier today, TVG's Simon was talking about how Wesley Ward has found the perfect spot to succeed at Royal Ascot.
The common style of European training is to bring juveniles along more gradually, and they don't usually target these early two-year-old stakes races with their best stock. They also don't tend to have them schooled to break like sprinters going 100 yards.
Ward's juveniles are precocious types who have been trained to break like jets launched off an aircraft carrier. :o
When a Ward juvy breaks on top, they can often carry that speed for five furlongs. And Wesley loves to run his best fillies in a race like the Norfolk against colts, where his gals get a significant weight break. :D
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Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:46 am

Gidu actually ran pretty well there. Not sure where he finished but it was in the top half and not too far behind. Looked like he was in deep water a furlong from home but he rallied late, maybe the 6f was a bit short for him.

Edit- 6th beaten 2 1/2 lengths. Nice effort.
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Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:54 am

Are all the jockeys white males or does it just seem that way?

Men's hats, they all appear to be identical, are they of equal quality? Does Sir Michael Stoute wear the same one every day? (I assume that ladies aren't allowed to wear the same thing twice?)

Are there hat boxes for men similar to the women's that are a pain in the neck when travelling?

When it comes to jockey skills, some are better than others no doubt, but do you think it requires more or less special skills that separate jockeys when running around the turns or a straightaway race?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:53 pm

that filly that won the mile race today, man, she was quite impressive.
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Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:47 pm

luvsgeldings wrote:that filly that won the mile race today, man, she was quite impressive.
The female family has produced some excellent milers. Its great to see another one.
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