The Belmont Undercard

Re: The Belmont Undercard

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:39 pm

(HRM certainly likes her stayers doesn't she?)

As the longest-reigning monarch in British history, it seems fitting that she prefers horses who can also stay the course. ;)
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Re: The Belmont Undercard

Postby peeptoad » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:58 am

Haven't had much time lately, but I did look at the Met yesterday and Bee Jersey looks very tough if he's left alone up front. I"m looking to beat Biscuits in here since I think he's moderately to substantially better at 6-7F. Bolt also looks good against others on paper, as does Limousine Liberal... Warrior's Club for the long shot bomb.
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Re: The Belmont Undercard

Postby Little Watermelon » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:57 pm

Looking forward to seeing Joking return tomorrow in a tough spot in the True North.
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Re: The Belmont Undercard

Postby katmandu » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:12 pm

I would assume today is the Belmont undercard too. . .

Imperial Hint takes the True North, holding off a fast closing Whitmore. Bobby Abu Dhabi was game and held on for third.

That little bugger is fast.
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Re: The Belmont Undercard

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:01 pm

The Queen's Call To Mind not only won the Belmont Gold Cup, he set a new course record for the two miles. :D
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/thor ... -gold-cup/
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Re: The Belmont Undercard

Postby Starine » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:19 pm

I actually really like Limousine Liberal in the Met Mile. For a long time he was the best horse in America never to have won a graded stakes but he has really been on a tear lately.

I don't really trust Mind That Biscuits to come back with another big effort after Dubai, particularly going a mile.
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Re: The Belmont Undercard

Postby SSilence86 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:25 pm

Westwood was pulled up and vanned off during the True North.

He sustained a hoof injury to his left fore, described by trainer KM as... "he broke his hoof".
He'll be ok, just will take time.

As a side note, I stopped watching the True North after Giant Ryan.
Glad Westwood is ok.
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Re: The Belmont Undercard

Postby Tessablue » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:35 pm

Love Imperial Hint! So glad he won today.

Initial thoughts on tomorrow:

Easy Goer: love Breaking the Rules, no reason he shouldn't improve stretching out here for Shug

Phipps: Will try to beat Abel Tasman here because I don't think she towers above these and she'll be heavily bet. Ivy Bell is interesting, as Pletcher could have left her in today's race but will take his chances on the stretch out tomorrow. I don't see anything to dislike about Pacific Wind, and Unchained Melody will be a pretty nice price if she runs back to her form from last year.

Acorn: No interest in betting against Monomoy Girl here, she's really good and she's really versatile. Underneath, I love Talk Veuve to Me, with Starcloud (who beat a nice filly last out and can handle all sorts of trips on the front end) as a potential bomb on the board. Respect Caledonia Road a lot but I don't think this race is the right distance or setup for her (to win, at least).

Brooklyn: Always find this one impossible to bet. Will just box War Story, Outplay and Giant Payday (with his pedigree at this distance, why not?) and cross my fingers.

Jaipur: Love this field! It looks like there will be a lot of pace in here, so I like Stormy Liberal to save ground and pounce late while hopefully shaking off any lingering effects from Dubai. Don't love the odds on Disco Partner but he wins if he runs anything close to what he did in this race last year, and maybe he really needed that last start. Holding Gold ran the best race of his life in this race last year and he'll offer fantastic value if he goes off anywhere near his morning line.

Woody Stephens: Promises Fulfilled is immediately tempting based on the cutback and the morning line, but he has to hope that Strike Power breaks out from that post and doesn't get to recapitulate the Florida Derby. I think he's the most likely speed horse to stick around, but I think Kanthaka gets the best trip here. And if I like Kanthaka, I have to take along Beautiful Shot at 20-1 ML too.

Jenny Wiley: In a very wide open edition, the only thing I don't like about On Leave is the fact that Jose Ortiz jumped off her to pick up Lull. Lull will try to walk them on the lead here and might do it; tough to project anything crazy happening on the tote with five reasonable near-favorites in here. I slightly prefer Off Limits between the Brown mares but wouldn't be surprised by either of them.

Met Mile: What a field! I would dearly love to see Bolt win here, but at his likely odds I think he's unbettable. Seemingly everyone is talking about Bee Jersey and he fits the profile of a horse who could really break out on a big stage here. I'm a big fan of Awesome Slew, who always seems to come through at any distance or trip. Otherwise, this field involves a lot of projecting whether horses will successfully stretch out or shorten up. To fill out some verticals, I like Ransom the Moon to do the former and One Liner to potentially do the latter.

The Manhattan: Probably my favorite field on the day. Robert Bruce is deeply intriguing, and Beach Patrol is pretty impossible to ignore even though there figures to be some pace in here. Sadler's Joy is a personal favorite and I think he could get a great setup here even if the distance is a little short for him. And because it always seems like somebody crazy hits the board in this race, I'll try to light things up with course specialist Hello Don Julio.
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Re: The Belmont Undercard

Postby Spahny » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:56 pm

I like Madison's Luna in the Woody Stevens; Will appreciate not running in swamp this time. Bolt in the Met; Will appreciate not running in a swamp this time. Sadler's Joy in the Manhattan; shortening up to 1 1/4. A Raving Beauty in the Just A Game; 2nd timer CB in the States. Should move forward again.

The other races I don't have a strong opinion on.
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Re: The Belmont Undercard

Postby Treve » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:07 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:(HRM certainly likes her stayers doesn't she?)

As the longest-reigning monarch in British history, it seems fitting that she prefers horses who can also stay the course. ;)


Her Majesty's Call To Mind won the Belmont Gold Cup! First victory for the Queen's stable on U.S. soil since 2000.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... cup-rivals
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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