2018 Arkansas Derby

Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Spahny » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:57 pm

tcw wrote:A convincing win by MM, but the drifting out in the stretch is NOT what you want to see. With that said, he still managed to close in 12 seconds flat which is VERY good, especially going 9f.


More than a second slower than the Oaklawn Handicap but same final fraction as City of Light and Accelerate even with drifting. I wouldn't sweat it.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby luvsgeldings » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:59 pm

a couple of years ago Nyquist drifted out in the stretch when he won the Florida Derby - all he did was come back to win the KY Derby - it almost looked like MM saw something before he started to drift out - very glad he won - and oh yes.... he is so very handsome!!!
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Tessablue » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:04 pm

It was over when he put his ears up on the lead. He's still a bit green but he's also really good. We've got one very nice Derby ahead of us!
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Diver52 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:07 pm

Solomini wrong lead again. Sigh.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Sparrow Castle » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:10 pm

Diver52 wrote:Solomini wrong lead again. Sigh.

Yeah, I noticed that too.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby tcw » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:14 pm

Spahny wrote:
tcw wrote:A convincing win by MM, but the drifting out in the stretch is NOT what you want to see. With that said, he still managed to close in 12 seconds flat which is VERY good, especially going 9f.


More than a second slower than the Oaklawn Handicap but same final fraction as City of Light and Accelerate even with drifting. I wouldn't sweat it.


Similar to the UAE and SA Derbies, the early fractions were on the tepid side which of course figures into the final time. But most importantly, he closed very fast even with the drifting out which was likely an anomaly based on his pps.

Really looking forward to the Derby as this year's field looks outstanding.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Tessablue » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:07 pm

The AK Derby does tend to produce fast closing fractions relative to the other preps, but twelve flat is great under any circumstances and he opened up the way he was supposed to. The pace was easy but we've already seen him lay off of a quick pace between horses, so I'm not overly concerned about his Derby trip.

He's very talented but sort of a wildcard. I think he might be the horse most worth watching in the works and gallops, because he's very physically impressive and Pletcher horses tend to work how they feel leading up to the race.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Treve » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:14 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I'd love to see an updated Derby points list. If Combatant earned 10 points for his 4th today, that gives him 32. I think that leaves him just on the other side of the 'bubble' in 21st.


With Runaway Ghost's injury that puts him at #20. But because you have to count Gronkowski as #20, you need to be #19... If another defection occurs he'd draw in.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Sparrow Castle » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:23 pm

Treve wrote:
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I'd love to see an updated Derby points list. If Combatant earned 10 points for his 4th today, that gives him 32. I think that leaves him just on the other side of the 'bubble' in 21st.


With Runaway Ghost's injury that puts him at #20. But because you have to count Gronkowski as #20, you need to be #19... If another defection occurs he'd draw in.

My hunch is he'll run in the Derby, but...

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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Big Ten » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:27 am

Closed fast. Faster than Justify but only a 98 Beyer. Hasn't changed my mind on my pick but MM looks better than Audible. Deep crop. The result I wanted happened. Now waiting for another three weeks to see if Baffert beats Pletcher. Collision course of Scat Daddies, Apollo curses, and Baffert vs Pletcher.
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