2018 Arkansas Derby

Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Izvestia » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:05 am

Tenfold is my longshot. If I was being forced to stay away from the favourites.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Tessablue » Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:31 pm

All about Magnum Moon here. I think he's just better than the rest of these and I want to see him take a nice step forward going 9f. Aside from him I don't really like anyone in here- Solomini will probably finish second on back class alone, but I'd have to see some major improvement to even remotely consider him a Derby horse. Quip beat a couple of nice horses in Tampa Bay but he could not have possibly had a better trip. Not sure who else I could see sneaking onto the board, though... Combatant I guess? I'd be a little surprised if third/fourth place end up anywhere near the winner.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Curtis » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:23 pm

I really like Solomini but I do think he’s the type that needs to race more and work less. I think Baffert knows that too which is why he wanted to run him in the San Vincente. I think the key to Solomini’s grinding style is to have him on the lead turning into the stretch, in fact if Prat can manage it, taking him to the lead from the gate might not be a bad idea. Solomini doesn’t have the turn of foot to navigate a lot of trouble but he throws down when directly challenged. Baffert being the trainer will kill the price, so unless an exotic bet makes some sense as the day wears on, I’ll probably just watch.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby peeptoad » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:32 pm

I agree on Solomini. To me he's a grinder with a moderately high cruising speed. I'd love to see what he could do in the Belmont actually.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Curtis » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:21 pm

peeptoad wrote:I agree on Solomini. To me he's a grinder with a moderately high cruising speed. I'd love to see what he could do in the Belmont actually.

I agree, if Justify isn’t going for the TC, that’s a very likely next out after either the Derby or a prep like the Peter Pan, depending of course on where his grinding gets him today.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:08 pm

In the G2 Oaklawn Handicap, which ran before the Arkansas Derby, last year's winner Inside Straight refused to leave the gate. Maybe he's Facebook or Twitter friends with Chautauqua. :P
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:46 pm

Pretty good win by the hunky Magnum Moon, but...what is up with the drifting out in the stretch? Hasn't he done that before? If he does that in the Derby, he will 1) cost himself the race, or 2) cost someone else the race when he runs into them. Which will also cost him the win. :P
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:52 pm

I'd love to see an updated Derby points list. If Combatant earned 10 points for his 4th today, that gives him 32. I think that leaves him just on the other side of the 'bubble' in 21st.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby tcw » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:54 pm

A convincing win by MM, but the drifting out in the stretch is NOT what you want to see. With that said, he still managed to close in 12 seconds flat which is VERY good, especially going 9f.
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Re: 2018 Arkansas Derby

Postby Personal Ensign » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:55 pm

What a finish! Magnum Moon wins the Arkansas Derby and goes into the KY Derby undefeated!
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