Mendelssohn

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Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:57 pm

Thanks, really hoping he gets a work in over the Churchill strip?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:12 pm

I don't think he recorded any workouts at Del Mar last year, at least I can't find any on xbtv.
I can't remember if he recorded a workout in Dubai though I do remember seeing videos of him galloping.

Europeans in general but AOB specifically just have such different ways of training. Most Europeans work their horses out by running them in races. I don't think Ballydoyle even has official clockers at least not for the regular gallops. Maybe it's different for their all-weather training track? Sometimes AOB will use his stop watch to clock a horse or calculate how fast they're going but nothing official. I think the best way to know would be to look at whether he worked out his previous Derby entrants? I can't remember.

I'm not too worried about the surface itself though to be honest especially since Churchill is known to be kinder to horses that have turf form. Plus this is a horse that has now run on three different kinds of surfaces in different conditions and won on all three.
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Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:46 am

I remember reading somewhere that AOB ships his horses in very last minute when they go abroad so I would think Mendelssohn will ship 3-4 days ahead of the Derby and only gallop over the Churchill Downs track, I really doubt he'll get a timed workout.
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Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:07 pm

He shipped about a week early for Dubai, can't remember when he shipped for DMR.
I think it was about 5 days for the BC.
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Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:24 pm

Maybe he'll change it up some this time based on this excerpt.....

Just five horses have made the trip from Ballydoyle to Louisville to date, including Johannesburg, who finished eighth in the Kentucky Derby after winning the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile the previous season. Master Of Horse’s run into fifth in 2011 is as close as O’Brien has been to the frame.
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Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:08 pm

Mendelssohn ties for 8th on the Longines World's Best Racehorse Rankings with a rating of 122
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... qus_thread
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:52 am

Stolen posting from another forum....just curious if it's true?

Per the Churchill Downs Condition Book, a horse which has not started in the last 45 days (applies to Mendelssohn) will not be permitted to start unless it has at least one published workout within 20 days of entry at a distance acceptable to the stewards.

Therefore, he will have to have at least one published workout and I doubt that one at O'Brien's farm will be acceptable to the Stewards in Louisville.
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:04 pm

No idea if it is true (the rule) but this person sucks at math, Mendelssohn will have had 35 days (or 36 if you want to count from the 31st of March), not 45 between his starts.
Tried to dig on the internet to see if I could find a published workout for Thunder Snow last year and I couldn't.

a part of me is morbidly curious about what would happen of Churchill tried saying no to Coolmore though :lol:
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:17 pm

Treve wrote:No idea if it is true (the rule) but this person sucks at math, Mendelssohn will have had 35 days (or 36 if you want to count from the 31st of March), not 45 between his starts.
Tried to dig on the internet to see if I could find a published workout for Thunder Snow last year and I couldn't.

a part of me is morbidly curious about what would happen of Churchill tried saying no to Coolmore though :lol:
LOL, good catch Treve!

Will follow the original post to see if anybody catches it over there.

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/show ... p?t=144316
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:05 pm

AOB ships his horses to the Curragh and other courses for workouts—he could do that with Mendelssohn if necessary.
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:02 pm

stark wrote:
Treve wrote:No idea if it is true (the rule) but this person sucks at math, Mendelssohn will have had 35 days (or 36 if you want to count from the 31st of March), not 45 between his starts.
Tried to dig on the internet to see if I could find a published workout for Thunder Snow last year and I couldn't.

a part of me is morbidly curious about what would happen of Churchill tried saying no to Coolmore though :lol:
LOL, good catch Treve!

Will follow the original post to see if anybody catches it over there.

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/show ... p?t=144316
Looks like the poster caught their mistake! :lol: (we all have days)

From what I remember there's a minimum 42-45 hour quarantine for horses shipping in though, so I imagine we will see Mendy arrive in Kentucky Sunday or Monday prior. Maybe he'll have a work, but probably not.
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Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:33 am

How long is Mendelssohn's quarantine period supposed to last? 3 days or 7 days?
anyone know- thanks...
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:19 am

I think it's 48 hours and they come about a week before the race
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:14 am

yeah this guy.... Mendelssohn - would love to see him win it - I could listen to AOB talk all day long (not that he ever would) - but it would be fun if he had the Derby winner this year.
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:31 am

I gotta say... with the passing of Giant's Causeway, Mendelssohn is sort of my sentimental choice. If he could win the Derby and the Classic... how poetic would it be to see the Wizard of Ballydoyle succeed in the memory of his toughest protégé?
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Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:19 pm

Ryan Moore has just been confirmed to ride Mendelssohn in the Kentucky Derby, therefore bypassing the 2000 Guineas.
https://www.racingpost.com/news/news/ry ... ien/328580
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Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:29 pm

Starine wrote:Is He a "Men" Among Boys?
-Steve Haskin
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/horse-ra ... -boys.aspx
The punny headline lol! Thanks for posting the link Starine, sounds like Auden O’Brien regards the colt rather highly and must be pleased with how he is going.
With the attention that Rayya got in her latest workout with Abel Tasman I wonder long term how that will reflect on Mendelssohn. Baffert sounds pretty high on her, i suppose the people who were following the Meydan meet know that he didn’t exactly beat a bunch of chumps but i do understand it’s not always easy to gauge.
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Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:47 pm

Treve wrote:Ryan Moore has just been confirmed to ride Mendelssohn in the Kentucky Derby, therefore bypassing the 2000 Guineas.
https://www.racingpost.com/news/news/ry ... ien/328580

That's a pretty big vote of confidence. Although, he's already won the 2,000 Guineas twice in the last 3 years, and an Aidan O'Brien trained chance in the Derby like Mendelssohn may not ever come around again.
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