2018 Fountain Of Youth

stark
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:25 pm

Saturday Gulfstream Race #14 Mile and a 16th $400,000

1 He Takes Charge (KY) 3/C L T Gaffalione 116 M E Casse
2 Free Drop Billy (KY) 3/C L R Albarado 122 D L Romans
3 Peppered (KY) 3/C L N Juarez 116 R Baker
4 Strike Power (KY) 3/C L L Saez 122 M A Hennig
5 Storm Runner (KY) 3/C L J Rosario 116 D L Romans
6 Good Magic (KY) 3/C L J L Ortiz 122 C C Brown
7 Gotta Go (KY) 3/C L C Landeros 120 I R Wilkes
8 Marconi (KY) 3/C L J Castellano 116 T A Pletcher
9 Machismo (KY) 3/C L A Jimenez 116 A T Quartarolo
10 Promises Fulfilled (KY) 3/C L I Ortiz, Jr. 116 D L Romans
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:25 pm

He Takes Charge by Tapit out of a half sister to Will Take Charge and Take Charge Indy. Nice.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:39 am

I'm excited for this year's rather salty edition. You could make a case for most of these.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:35 am

Ridan_Remembered wrote:He Takes Charge by Tapit out of a half sister to Will Take Charge and Take Charge Indy. Nice.
WTC was a nice horse, I liked him a lot, but he was a late developer. Wonder if his progeny will be same
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:48 am

I saw some footage of him being walked around, and he looked very attractive. The Tapit in him may bring some run-fast-young genes. ;)
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:16 am

^^^^^
Didn't play out for Ziconic. I still can't understand how ANY Tapir could be so slow. :?
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:30 am

Diver52 wrote:^^^^^
Didn't play out for Ziconic. I still can't understand how ANY Tapir could be so slow. :?
Well according to the internet they're faster swimmers than they are runners :D (I kid I kid... it's just still one of my favourite typos)
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:37 pm

BARN Podcast replay
We look ahead to the Fountain of Youth Stakes and welcome in Frank Lyons to talk about his career in racing, working at TVG, gambling stories and more!

https://extra.betamerica.com/barn-podcast-3118/
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:02 pm

I'll take a flyer here. I really like Storm Runner.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:48 pm

Thanks Stark-Really enjoyed the Frank Lyons interview. I miss him at TVG. Glad he is doing well with his new radio show on ESPN AM 1300 in Lexington,which is also available as podcasts.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:26 pm

All Eyes on Good Magic in Fountain of Youth

Juvenile champion makes anticipated season debut against nine others.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... n-of-youth
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Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:13 pm

Over the years I've developed some tenets of handicapping, some good, some not so good, but they stick with me as I sit down and review PPs. For example, adding blinkers isn't necessarily that big of deal.....but if the horse has a recent quick gate drill with them presumably on, then that's a bet!

On to my rule #117a.......I usually pick one or two horses early in the triple crown parade to bet in the future books at ridiculously high odds and cheer for right up to the first Saturday in May. This is a trainer angle "play against"......as good a trainer as Bobby Frankel was, I managed to never get involved in any hype over his 2YOs as they turned 3 and there were a few really goods along the way. My theory was that Frankel wouldn't do what was necessary to peak on the first Saturday in May, way too rigorous of a campaign for his liking, so I automatically just drew a line thru any of his horses at this point in the year.

So now I'm tempted to do the same approach with his protege Chad Brown. Not only do I think he prefers having turf stars, but I can't help but think his days with Frankel play an important role as a horse is developing.

Right or wrong?

We'll find out, but I won't be boarding the Brown bus along the way, I say toss the FOY morning line favorite! :lol:
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:26 pm

I think that's as good a reason as any to pick against Good Magic, tbh. Is this horse better than Practical Joke? Supposed to be, by default. He's bred to go longer, so remains to be seen how he goes into the 3yo season and if Brown is able to turn screws faster on these 3yos.

I think we see Marconi run really well here, but I'm betting 'Billy is a little tighter in this spot than the Holy Bull.
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Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:02 pm

Anthony J. Stabile @TheBigAStabile
32m32 minutes ago
Dale Romans just told us on @Xpressbet Radio on @HRRN that Free Drop BIlly may scratch from the Fountain of Youth tomorrow for the Gotham at Aqueduct next Saturday. Will "sleep on it" and decide in the morning,
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Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:13 pm

stark wrote: So now I'm tempted to do the same approach with his protege Chad Brown. Not only do I think he prefers having turf stars, but I can't help but think his days with Frankel play an important role as a horse is developing.
You think he PREFERS having turf stars? Interesting. Not sure how you're reading his mind, but guessing your justification on this position is thin at best.

He's got the horse to beat tomorrow. By far. Duh. But that's coming from someone who can't cash a ticket at Gulfstream in 2018.....even after we've run 3-1-2-0 with three starters in the past week. So maybe I just got him beat by jumping on board. I'll be playing him with the rail horse, and betting that one across the board.
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Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:17 pm

Saying Chad "prefers" turf stars is dumb.

Didn't he win the Preakness last year?
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Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:22 pm

thinair wrote:Saying Chad "prefers" turf stars is dumb.
Didn't he win the Preakness last year?
Horsebagger wrote: You think he PREFERS having turf stars? Interesting. Not sure how you're reading his mind, but guessing your justification on this position is thin at best.
Well, having two of the more respectable professionals here label me as dumb&dumber, not sure I want to prove them right again, but with only a few bucks I'll take a shot, please don't LOL.

l'll box an exacta with the 7/8.
Gotta Go at 10/1
Marconi at 8/1.
And a win bet on both at those odds or higher.

Hoping Gotta Go isn't just a late running sprinter, think he'll still be running at the end of a race that could fall apart up front, had considerable trouble in his last two- turn effort, just draw a line thru it and start over today.
Marconi from the Pletcher barn with a hefty price tag either improves or retires soon, time will tell but I'm not missing on an 8/1 shot with Castellano up in a triple crown prep race.

Both horses have a little recency edge over the heavy favorite who might have some cobwebs to work thru, I'd rather pass the race than bet on Good Magic.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:01 pm

The undercard races are really good; it's possible that many nice horses headed south instead of trying to deal with the weather north of the Mason-Dixon.
Holy Helena won the G3 The Very One, 1 3/16-miles on the turf, in WOW fashion. Tracked the leaders and then kicked past them like she had turned on a rocket pack. :D
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Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:57 pm

I have Marconi and Gotta Go in 2nd or 3rd. Really don't have the rest of the race figured out, and Free Drop Billy was probably going to be my pick.

So I'll go with Machismo or Storm Runner on top. :)
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Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:26 pm

Caton just passed along the troublesome news that Fly So High, who won the Davona Dale, was pulled up on the gallop-out. Jose apparently thought she just didn't feel right; she seemed to walk soundly as she loaded onto the horse ambulance. Update later, hopefully?
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