The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

Postby katmandu » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:23 pm

“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated” Mahatma Ghandi

To me, at least, it seems like on some level this applies to people, too. Thank you Fox Hill Farm for initiating this and for giving back so much. All class.

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Re: The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

Postby Sparrow Castle » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:08 pm

I so hope this vision is realized on a national level. I will certainly do all I can to support it. I've thought this couldn't be accomplished without a national commissioner's office with enforcement powers by, hey, maybe this can work.

I do think it will be very difficult to get some state racing commissions and some tracks (management and owners) to not just buy in but actively support it. That's where major roadblocks have been in some areas, and it will be key in my opinion.

A big thanks to Rick, Victoria and the others who have organized this initiative!
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Re: The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

Postby Ridan_Remembered » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:23 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote:I so hope this vision is realized on a national level. I will certainly do all I can to support it. I've thought this couldn't be accomplished without a national commissioner's office with enforcement powers by, hey, maybe this can work.

I do think it will be very difficult to get some state racing commissions and some tracks (management and owners) to not just buy in but actively support it. That's where major roadblocks have been in some areas, and it will be key in my opinion.

A big thanks to Rick, Victoria and the others who have organized this initiative!


Totally agree. A huge thanks to Rick, Victoria and others who are attempting this difficult task. If I knew how to help, I would.
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Re: The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

Postby Sparrow Castle » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:48 pm

A few more of the details are in the TDN stories. I expect they will be working with current entities like CANTER as this develops further. No need to re-invent some of these strategies.

With Lofty Goals, Porter Starts Horse Welfare Operation
http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/with-lofty-goals-porter-starts-horse-welfare-operation/
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Re: The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

Postby Sparrow Castle » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:19 am

New Facebook page for those so inclined to follow along...

Fox Hill Farm shared a Page.
4 hrs ·
We hope that you will "like" the NTWO Facebook page and share with all your friends. Thank you.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/NTWO.org/posts/


This is the most recent post:

ntwo.org
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We have been asked who the four Thoroughbreds were who were obtained at Monday's auction by outbidding the killpen buyer. We identified these three:

Red Hot Sensation, who last raced on 2/8/18 at Delta Downs.

Coast Guard Kid, who last raced on 1/20/18 at Fair Grounds.

Cajuness is an unraced filly who was came from a training center in LA.

We have been told by the person who bought the four horses that the fourth is an unraced filly named Twirling Sky.

We have a short video that we have from the sale of the treatment of Red Hot Sensation that we can share with interested parties.
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Re: The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

Postby Dusty » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:52 am

Sparrow Castle wrote:I so hope this vision is realized on a national level. I will certainly do all I can to support it. I've thought this couldn't be accomplished without a national commissioner's office with enforcement powers by, hey, maybe this can work.

I do think it will be very difficult to get some state racing commissions and some tracks (management and owners) to not just buy in but actively support it. That's where major roadblocks have been in some areas, and it will be key in my opinion.

A big thanks to Rick, Victoria and the others who have organized this initiative!



YES!!! This should be supported and MAJOR KUDOS to all involved!
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Re: The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

Postby Sparrow Castle » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:26 pm

ntwo.org
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It's been a few weeks since the announcement of the formation of our organization, so we want to update on what we've been doing.

First, we are thrilled with the people we are putting into our organization. Ecstatic, really. We weren't looking for just names to plug into a spot, but good people who have a deep passion and desire to be part of this. We'll announce some positions soon, but we couldn't have any better people helping us and we're so grateful and blessed to have them coming on board with us.

As previously noted, we are starting our efforts in Louisiana. Louisiana represents the "perfect storm." They have a state-bred program that results in a substantial number of horses being bred, but they don't have much in the way of resources to rehome these horses at the end of their careers. They are near the Mexican border, and they have two notorious "kill buyers" -- Thompson/Sanders and the Stanleys -- operating in close proximity.

There have been many good people working on the problem in Louisiana for many years. We feel for them as we've seen just a little of what they've been up against. When we make the progress we intend to make in the coming months, it is due to some very smart and savvy and dedicated people who have been fighting the good fight over the past years.

We filed for our 501(c)3 status in January, and are somewhat impatiently awaiting approval. We strongly believe in public accountability and transparency when one obtains public funding. We will not accept any donations until we can guarantee our contributors that their donations are tax-deductible. While we may be "chomping at the bit," the reality is that we've needed this time to put the right people into place, talk to the tracks, racing commission and others, find suitable farms for rehab and layups, get our website ready, and more. We have to have the proper foundation to build upon.

We have tried to respond to all who have reached out to us. If we missed someone, we apologize and ask that you contact us again. We thank you for your support.
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Re: The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

Postby Sparrow Castle » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:22 pm

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We had more meetings this week. On Monday night, we met with Boyd Gaming execs as well as some LA racing commissioners. The next day we met with more racing commissioners and were also introduced to track executives from other tracks in the state. We have been very well received -- the tracks and commissioners are indicating that they very much want to do what they can within the law. The expectation is that we will be meeting again in the next couple weeks when every involved party can attend to hammer out a plan for the entire state.

This is all unfortunately too little too late to be able to prevent what appears to be right around the corner, which is a CBS News national report that is expected to be about Thoroughbred Racing sending its horses to slaughter. They were filming on Monday and Tuesday in Louisiana which is how we found out about the upcoming segment. It is expected to air either on Thursday or Friday before the Derby.

This is why NTWO and all the other rehoming efforts are so important. If one somehow doesn't feel in the heart and mind that it is not at all acceptable for racing's horses to end up in killpens or at slaughter, they must at least acknowledge how damning it is for the sport. Racing must take a stand for the horses and for the sport that sending horses to slaughter (and this includes easy disposal through local livestock auctions where the horses will be bought by slaughter buyers unless a rescue is there to outbid for those horses) will not be tolerated. We must come together on this issue for the sake of the horses and the sport. If not, then the damning reports for the public to see will continue pounding the stake into the heart of racing.
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Re: The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

Postby Treve » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:37 pm

I hope CBS will provide a balanced perspective... but I doubt it. Wonder if NTWO can reach out to them, or possibly another Network like NBC?
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Re: The greatness of a nation and its moral progress

Postby Ziggypop » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:27 pm

Treve wrote:I hope CBS will provide a balanced perspective... but I doubt it. Wonder if NTWO can reach out to them, or possibly another Network like NBC?
There is no "balanced" perspective. The slaughter issue is exactly what it is. And the industry has dragged its feet and swept it under the table for far far too long. And too many still want to take the easy way out by dumping them.

No one talks about the broodmares, barren, pregnant and babies by their sides who end up in the slaughter pipeline-which is utterly appalling. Slaughter is a cancer on the entire industry.
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