2018 Hall Of Fame

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Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:06 pm

There are 10 finalists –
jockeys Robby Albarado, Corey Nakatani, and Craig Perret;
trainers Mark Casse, John Shirreffs, and David Whiteley;
and the racehorses Blind Luck, Gio Ponti, Havre de Grace, and Heavenly Prize.

In recent years, even though voters could chose as many candidates as they felt worthy, only the top four receiving votes would get in. Voters can still choose as many as they believe deserve induction, but this year the Hall of Fame has tweaked its rules to allow any candidate who receives support from more than 50 percent of the voters to get in.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:12 pm

Perret and Whiteley make the ballot again. They're the Harold Stassens (perennial presidential candidate of bygone years) of the Hall of Fame ballot.

Gio and Corey for me, no other names on my hypothetical ballot.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:53 pm

Gio Ponti. Gio Ponti. Gio Ponti.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:10 pm

Albarado, Nakatani, Gio Ponti, Havre de Grace.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:13 pm

John Shirreffs, really? SMDH
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:45 pm

mariasmon wrote:John Shirreffs, really? SMDH
"Macarena" – Los Del Rio (1996)
"Tainted Love" – Soft Cell (1982)
"Come on Eileen" – Dexys Midnight Runners (1982)
"I'm Too Sexy" – Right Said Fred (1991)
"Mickey" – Toni Basil (1982)
"Who Let the Dogs Out?" – Baha Men (2000)
"Ice Ice Baby" – Vanilla Ice (1990)
"Take on Me" – A-ha (1985)
"Rico Suave" – Gerardo (1990)
"99 Luftballons" – Nena (1984)
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:14 pm

No mention of Blind Luck?????

You guys are ......... no, I'm not going to say it. ......

She was an amazing, weedy little thing; to the tune of 10 graded stakes (6 G1), with G1s at 2,3, and 4, only off the board in her last start, and brought home 3.3 million in bacon. Oh, and she bested you know who 3 times. . .
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:57 pm

katmandu wrote:No mention of Blind Luck?????

You guys are ......... no, I'm not going to say it. ......

She was an amazing, weedy little thing; to the tune of 10 graded stakes (6 G1), with G1s at 2,3, and 4, only off the board in her last start, and brought home 3.3 million in bacon. Oh, and she bested you know who 3 times. . .
I could be persuaded on Blind Luck and no offense to some talented professionals but it's a pretty uninspiring list.

And thanks Stark for the list of one-hit wonders. Some sharp promoter should put all those bands back together and take them on a county fair tour. They could all do one song each and it would be a full concert. And the real question, is Debby Boone still available to light up our lives?
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:58 pm

stark wrote:
mariasmon wrote:John Shirreffs, really? SMDH
"Macarena" – Los Del Rio (1996)
"Tainted Love" – Soft Cell (1982)
"Come on Eileen" – Dexys Midnight Runners (1982)
"I'm Too Sexy" – Right Said Fred (1991)
"Mickey" – Toni Basil (1982)
"Who Let the Dogs Out?" – Baha Men (2000)
"Ice Ice Baby" – Vanilla Ice (1990)
"Take on Me" – A-ha (1985)
"Rico Suave" – Gerardo (1990)
"99 Luftballons" – Nena (1984)
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:00 pm

katmandu wrote:No mention of Blind Luck?????

You guys are ......... no, I'm not going to say it. ......

She was an amazing, weedy little thing; to the tune of 10 graded stakes (6 G1), with G1s at 2,3, and 4, only off the board in her last start, and brought home 3.3 million in bacon. Oh, and she bested you know who 3 times. . .
I love Blind Luck I meant to put her in my post but I hit the send button too hastily and then left to do other things :oops:
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:56 pm

Blind Luck, Gio Ponti, Corey Nakatani for me. And maybe it's about time for Craig Perret to get in?
Do I want to leave Havre de Grace, one of the three distaffers who became HOTY in that historic three year run, off my ballot? :?
It's interesting that some of us feel more strongly about Blind Luck, the Little Chestnut Engine Who Could, running with her tail flagged like an Arabian.
IMHO Mark Casse is eventually going to get in, but I'm all for letting him wait a few more years.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:43 pm

David Whiteley, Craig Perret, Havre de Grace
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:38 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Blind Luck, Gio Ponti, Corey Nakatani for me. And maybe it's about time for Craig Perret to get in?
Perret had that one amazing hot streak near the end of his career, but before that I remember him most as a solid out-of-the-national-spotlight rider rather than a superstar jockey. Actually, I think this year may be Whiteley's year at long last. Too soon for Casse, and Shirreffs, as we all know, had his Seasons in the Sun (Terry Jacks -- 1974) with just one horse.
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BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Blind Luck, Gio Ponti, Corey Nakatani for me. And maybe it's about time for Craig Perret to get in?
Do I want to leave Havre de Grace, one of the three distaffers who became HOTY in that historic three year run, off my ballot? :?
It's interesting that some of us feel more strongly about Blind Luck, the Little Chestnut Engine Who Could, running with her tail flagged like an Arabian.
IMHO Mark Casse is eventually going to get in, but I'm all for letting him wait a few more years.
You don't have to leave HdG off your ballet, you can vote them all in this year (not limited). I thought Gio Ponti was a superb racehorse, and had a lot of respect for HdG, just couldn't believe there had been no mention of Blind Luck. She was amazing, her record speaks for itself.

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Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:44 pm

:? I keep seeing John Shirreffs referred to as a 'one-hit wonder,' but he also had Giacomo, Tiago, Life Is Sweet and Gormley, not to mention the fabulous but gone-too-soon sprinter Mentor Cane. And those are just off the top of my head. I suspect a real dive into his record will find some more very good horses I missed.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:40 pm

Much as I like HDG it's Blind Luck and Gio Ponti for me.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:29 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote::? I keep seeing John Shirreffs referred to as a 'one-hit wonder,' but he also had Giacomo, Tiago, Life Is Sweet and Gormley, not to mention the fabulous but gone-too-soon sprinter Mentor Cane. And those are just off the top of my head. I suspect a real dive into his record will find some more very good horses I missed.
The best horse he may have trained, at least for a time, was Bertrando. Still not a Hall of Famer. Tommy Doyle was nominated a few years back. I’d put him in first and he’s marginal.
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Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:44 pm

Heavenly Prize - Whiteley - Albarado
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:59 am

From DRF......

In an absolutely stunning development, Heavenly Prize is the lone contemporary inductee into the 2018 National Museum of Racing Hall of Fame, this despite a change in voting rules this year that seemed as though it would make it easier for a backlogged group of deserving candidates to finally get in.

Heavenly Prize was one of 10 horses, trainers, and jockeys on the final ballot, the others being jockeys Robby Albarado, Corey Nakatani, and Craig Perret; trainers Mark Casse, John Shirreffs, and David Whiteley, and the racehorses Blind Luck, Gio Ponti, and Havre de Grace.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:25 pm

stark wrote:From DRF......

In an absolutely stunning development, Heavenly Prize is the lone contemporary inductee into the 2018 National Museum of Racing Hall of Fame, this despite a change in voting rules this year that seemed as though it would make it easier for a backlogged group of deserving candidates to finally get in.

Heavenly Prize was one of 10 horses, trainers, and jockeys on the final ballot, the others being jockeys Robby Albarado, Corey Nakatani, and Craig Perret; trainers Mark Casse, John Shirreffs, and David Whiteley, and the racehorses Blind Luck, Gio Ponti, and Havre de Grace.
Not overtly concerned about this result. At some point, there has to be a line drawn to distinguish a true elite Hall of Fame and not become a popularity contest to achieve the honor.

And I'd make the same case for every sports current HOF voting more generally.
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