What if we had a National Racing Czar?

Re: What if we had a National Racing Czar?

Postby stark » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:38 pm

Jeremy Balan
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Some humdingers on the CHRB agenda for next week.

- Required transfer of medical records for horses who have been claimed.

- Automatic scratch of first-time geldings who aren't reported as geldings.

http://www.chrb.ca.gov/Board/board_meet ... agenda.pdf
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: What if we had a National Racing Czar?

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:48 pm

Those are both such good ideas. How much to you want to wager that various groups (trainers, owners, vets?) will fight the first one? :roll:
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Re: What if we had a National Racing Czar?

Postby stark » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:58 pm

stark wrote:Jeremy Balan
@BH_JBalan

Some humdingers on the CHRB agenda for next week.

- Required transfer of medical records for horses who have been claimed.

- Automatic scratch of first-time geldings who aren't reported as geldings.

http://www.chrb.ca.gov/Board/board_meet ... agenda.pdf


The CHRB, trainers, and vets have compromised over the transfer of vet records for claimed horses. The scope of the new proposal would only mandate records of joint injections. Could get approved during the May CHRB meeting.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ium=social
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Re: What if we had a National Racing Czar?

Postby Sparrow Castle » Mon May 07, 2018 9:38 pm

Some thoughtful responses here and some overlap, some not so thoughtful.

Thoroughbred Idea Foundation @racingideas
If you were Czar of Racing, what would be your first three changes/improvements?

Carrie Brogden @MachmerHall
35m35 minutes ago
Replying to @racingideas
#1 NO race day drugs
#2 all horses post retirement not good enough to joint the broodmare bands or stand at stud be funneled into a standard rehome organization
#3 make a universal license, valid in all racing states , just like a DL.

maggi moss @maggimoss
2h2 hours ago
1. Hire a “czar” w total uniformity of all racing - rules and drug enforcement
2. Hire a public relations firm that brings back fans to the sport
3. Make tracks and regulators rid the sport of owners/trainers that callously discard the real athletes - the horses

Cormac Breathnach @CormacCB
1h1 hour ago
Replying to @racingideas
1. Fix the “upside-down model” where ADWs get lion’s share of takeout ahead of host tracks
2. Uniform rules etc
3. Limit stallion book sizes

Craig Bernick @Craig_Bernick
3h3 hours ago
Craig Bernick Retweeted Thoroughbred Idea Foundation
1. reduce takeout
2. make data (PP’s, race replays, catalog pages, live stream of races) available for free
3. create a central business office to improve marketing, sponsorship, and public relations of racing

More: https://twitter.com/racingideas/status/993621200860536832
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Re: What if we had a National Racing Czar?

Postby Sparrow Castle » Mon May 07, 2018 10:53 pm

Joe Nevills @DRFNevills
7m7 minutes ago
1. Revive a Thoroughbred track in Michigan with proper funding, staff and support to survive long-term. Preferably GLD, but I’ll take anything but Pinnacle.

2. Revive Mount Pleasant Meadows under the same conditions.

3. Retire as czar of racing. My work here is done.
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Re: What if we had a National Racing Czar?

Postby Ballerina » Mon May 07, 2018 11:04 pm

Perhaps a commission would be the answer - a long time equine lawyer, a former/retired trainer, a former/retired jockey, a multi horse owner/breeder over a long period of time. All with impeccable credentials.
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Re: What if we had a National Racing Czar?

Postby Sparrow Castle » Thu May 24, 2018 8:06 pm

I think it would be great if all bettors had the same odds info as the big CRW players.

CHRB's Baedeker Wants Late Odds Changes Addressed
After a staff report and presentation by California Horse Racing Board executive director Rick Baedeker outlining his concerns about computer-robotic wagering, specifically late odds changes, the regulator decided May 24 to form a committee to examine the issue.

Baedeker recommended the board adopt a rule that mandates correct odds be provided to the public no later than five seconds after the start of any race. The staff report said the industry should be given a deadline to meet that standard. If it's not met, California would close its pools earlier, for instance when the first horse enters the gate.

Baedeker added that closing pools early is not a solution he favors, but he does want the industry to move forward on addressing odds changes. He said the late odds changes that have followed increased play by CRW outfits has negatively impacted horseplayers' perceptions. He said a proposed rule with a reasonable timeframe would force the issue.

Furthermore, the CHRB executive director asked that the board encourage advance-deposit wagering outlets and tote companies to provide some of the same advantages enjoyed by CRW players to more of the public at large—in an effort to level the playing field. Baedeker didn't envision any rules being adopted toward this goal but hoped the message would be communicated to the industry.

"It would seem desirable to provide average players with the same tote connectivity as other bigger players have," Baedeker said. "I simply raise it because I've heard from players that it's not necessarily an even playing field."

More: https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/227718/chrbs-baedeker-wants-late-odds-changes-addressed
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Re: What if we had a National Racing Czar?

Postby stark » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:41 am

Last add.....

There's one thing I'm convinced of and that is the consistency from the racing crowd anytime something doesn't go as expected,
from a drop in odds after the race starts
to improper doses of medications being discovered
to duplicate owners in a race without coupling,
to a photo finish taking too long to decipher,
to not having a good camera angle investigating activities around the far turn,
to jocks not spending enough time on the scale for the arrow to settle,
to horses leaving the track for "treatments"
to jocks using the whip too often
to a track like Parx charging 30% for tri's and supers, while others charge as little as 19%
to California tracks trying to discourage claiming by out-of-state based connections.
to horses being asked to run in the snow on dangerous footing
to a lack of freebies provided to fans, pp's video etc.
to trainers "giving" their horse a start unbeknownst to the betting fans
to trainers and jocks strategizing how a race will unfold and who the competition is
to a foul is a foul or did it cost the horse a placing stewardship
and the list goes on.
And the thing the racing crowd is consistent about is the knee-jerk reaction, and I quote, "this wouldn't happen if we had National Policy", overseeing Czar, call it what you want, the people seem to think The Federales are the right answer.

And I'm convinced it isn't. There's nothing about the NFL or MLB that equates to horse racing. Horse racing is run by the individual states with varying laws and there's nothing wrong with that. Let the public, with their wallets, decide what's best for them. If they like wagering on horses where no raceday meds are allowed, somebody in Kentucky has enough pull to make that happen, then follow the money and see if it's really what the fans want? Same goes with coupled entries, if that's what the people want, a track will do it. But in reality, the outcry isn't strong enough, people seem to bet on whatever race is coming up next no matter some of those serious issues. And is that so bad?
Allow the free market to work, the public will bet with their wallets which product is best, and from a purely economical standpoint they have a new major foe becoming legalized, sports wagering! And once again, I'm convinced that a Czarina wouldn't know how to combat it.
If it was so easy, it'd already be done.
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Re: What if we had a National Racing Czar?

Postby BigDonOKC » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:55 pm

Ballerina wrote:
stark wrote:Pick a lady from any walk of life that you think might be able to do the job and I'm all for it (since I can't think of a man that could pull if off)
Bo
Hillary
Penny (deceased)
Margaret (would've mandated all turf racing)
Julie
????????????????


Barbara
Mandy
Charlotte


Stark us to think you had a little common since--Hillary should be and more than likely will be. ;)
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Re: What if we had a National Racing Czar?

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:48 pm

Stark, I agree that letting bettors vote for changes via their wallets makes sense...for those things which have no effect on the actual horse.
Anything that affects the horses, like whipping, meds or track surfaces, can't really wait for the money to exert pressure for change.
The welfare of the racehorses needs to come first, for so many reasons.
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