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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:29 pm
by BigDonOKC
Tampa Bay race 10 3-10-1018
Some people will not play a horse because it is chalk, that what they say on other boards I for one say play to make money on every bet or not play at all. We all know you can’t win every race but yon can cut down on how much you lose.
#1 Navy Armed Guard is 15/1 Has never given up ground would bet a good show bet.
#2 Flameaway he is a on and off horse has a set running pattern and even at 8/1 would be a waste of money.
#3 Vino Rosso has won all his races and the time was not bad but not average he closed to win both races at 3/1 he could win this and he looks like the only horse who could run with Cath0llic BOY.
#4 Septimius Severus at 15/1 has never give up ground but has not gone the distance. His Blood line looks good to me will look it up if he runs good this weekend.
#5 Hollywood Star has never given ground and at 5/2 would not be a bad bet. His las race was not up to his stander so he need a race to get me on board.
#6 Catholic Boy at 8/5 will not pay much but a win is a win. His speed is 18.7 to 17.7 in last 3 races looks to be the one to beat.
#7 Vouch at 8/1 has given up ground but has not been out of the money. Not much to say on yhis one.
My pick is 3/6 with 3/6 with 1/7 with 1/7

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:23 pm
by BigDonOKC
I don't know of a derby winner who came out of this race but do know of one horse that won this race and got in the money derby day. Bluegrass Cat. a long time ago.

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:00 pm
by BigDonOKC
Vouch was scratched now a 6 horse race

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:42 pm
by stark
Waay too many races across the country to wager on today, this one is a pass.

Wish PVal had a mount, he'd teach 'em a thing or two about pace makes the race!

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:12 pm
by sweettalk
Flameaway... he was my pick (but i don't bet, can't afford it under my circumstances). he's gutsy. i like that going forward.

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:17 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
That was a brave win by Flameaway. The Scat Daddy colt might not have the perfect breeding for 10 furlongs, but he sure has the heart and will to win that you want in a Derby runner.

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:53 pm
by BigDonOKC
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:That was a brave win by Flameaway. The Scat Daddy colt might not have the perfect breeding for 10 furlongs, but he sure has the heart and will to win that you want in a Derby runner.


Has a derby winner ever ran at this track?

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:10 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Not sure that sort of thing matters anymore. It might matter that Flameaway isn't nominated for the Triple Crown races. :shock:
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/trip ... m-f-davis/
It will be interesting to see which surface he ends up preferring; the colt has won on pretty much everything. His ability to get more distance may be helped by the Fusaichi Pegasus blood from his dam.

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:33 pm
by Timely Writer
Has a Derby winner ever come from this track?
Yes, last year Always Dreaming in addition to Super Saver and Street Sense in years past.
Way back when champion Slew O Gold finished 3rd in the Sam F Davis.

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:27 pm
by BigDonOKC
Always Dreaming Tamp Bay race was a Maiden Special weight it was his third race and first of the year.

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:29 pm
by BigDonOKC
No horse out of the Risen Star at fair grounds has ever won the Derby but many have been in the money need to keep this in mind this week end.

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:44 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
I like Instilled Regard, who has shown some quality and trained well in SoCal. I actually consider him a California horse, even though Hollendorfer has chosen the Louisiana path for his Derby hopeful. Being by Arch, he has the pedigree for the distance.

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:41 am
by Izvestia
I’m also a fan of the Arch colt. Does Hollendorfer have another top 3-year-old that he’s trying to keep separate?

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:47 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Maybe he's just trying to stay away from the Baffert colts? ;)

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:30 pm
by BigDonOKC
instilled regard has 14 points but he is an on an off horse who gives up ground. He will run second behind noble Indy. 8-)

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:54 pm
by stark
Fair Grounds STAKES
Purse $400,000. For Three Year Olds. One And One Sixteenth Miles.


1 High North (KY) 3/C L C J Lanerie 116 B H Cox 15/1
2 Noble Indy (KY) 3/C L J R Velazquez 116 T A Pletcher 5/1
3 Givemeaminit (LA) 3/C L S Bridgmohan 116 D Stewart 15/1
4 Snapper Sinclair (KY) 3/C L A Beschizza 120 S M Asmussen 8/1
5 Instilled Regard (KY) 3/C L J Castellano 120 J Hollendorfer 8/5
6 Supreme Aura (KY) 3/C L J Bravo 116 M Stidham 8/1
7 Bravazo (KY) 3/C L G L Stevens 116 D W Lukas 8/1
8 Kentucky Club (KY) 3/C L J Graham 116 D W Lukas 30/1
9 Principe Guilherme (KY) 3/C L F Geroux 116 S M Asmussen 7/2
10 Ebben (KY) 3/G L G Saez 116 S Margolis 30/1

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:13 am
by Izvestia
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Maybe he's just trying to stay away from the Baffert colts? ;)
Ha! That was my 2nd thought

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:56 pm
by BigDonOKC
2-17-18 Golden gates Fields race 7 El Camino Real Derby not much of a race 9 horses who on derby day will only watch the race. Top two horses in this field are
#4 Choo Choo and #7 Epical

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:40 pm
by stark
BigDonOKC wrote:2-17-18 Golden gates Fields race 7 El Camino Real Derby not much of a race 9 horses who on derby day will only watch the race. Top two horses in this field are
#4 Choo Choo and #7 Epical
What about the filly getting weight and going from turf victory to synthetic?

1 Paved (KY) 3/F L D Van Dyke 117 M W McCarthy 2/1
2 Blended Citizen (KY) 3/C L K Frey 122 D F O'Neill 4/1
3 Could Be the One (CA) 3/G L W Antongeorgi III 122 J Steiner 12/1
4 Choo Choo (KY) 3/C L J J Hernandez 122 J Hollendorfer 9/5
5 City Plan (KY) 3/C L T Conner 122 E G Harty 15/1
6 Calexman (KY) 3/C L A Quinonez 122 V Cerin 20/1
7 Epical (KY) 3/R L T J Pereira 122 J M Cassidy 10/1
8 Unlawful Act (KY) 3/G L C Herrera 122 M A Troy 30/1
9 Mugaritz (KY) 3/G L M Gutierrez 122 J Wong 10/1

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:44 pm
by BigDonOKC
the girl has the speed at 1 mile to get in top 4 but not a derby horse.