Derby Point Races 2018

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby Izvestia » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:41 am

I still scratch my head at GM being the champion 2-year-old... anyway, I would like to see Bolt come back impressively, but I have a feeling the best horses are coming from one barn. Rhymes with Gaffert.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby stark » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:51 am

Izvestia wrote:I still scratch my head at GM being the champion 2-year-old... anyway, I would like to see Bolt come back impressively, but I have a feeling the best horses are coming from one barn. Rhymes with Gaffert.


Another rhyme that works.....West is Best when it comes to this stuff.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby stark » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:13 pm

BigDonOKC wrote:This is what my excel program looks like


I wish you would've shared this with us before the race, the details make it all so much clearer!
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby BigDonOKC » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:33 pm

stark wrote:
BigDonOKC wrote:This is what my excel program looks like


I wish you would've shared this with us before the race, the details make it all so much clearer!



I did I posted my pick before the race, I posted the excel program to show how I come up with my pick and how I play them.

It takes one hour are so per race to run my program and set up my play. It had given me 6-4-2-10 when the 2 was scratched that left me the 6-4-X-10 I knew due to time since 6 ran he might need a race and he did , also I believed as I state that the 4 if he got on top would not give up ground and he got bested by the 10 but he keep second all the way to the wire, now there are some who will make fun of the time I put in a race , POINT IS I AM WORKING ON FINDING THE TOP 4 IN MAY WITH OUT A BOOK.



WILL POST NEXT WEEKS RACES EXCEL BEFORE THE RACE IF YOU WILL POST YOUR PICKS ALSO.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby stark » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:47 pm

BigDonOKC wrote:
WILL POST NEXT WEEKS RACES EXCEL BEFORE THE RACE IF YOU WILL POST YOUR PICKS ALSO.


My picks?
They'll be the same as yours, duh!
I used to pay $25 for analysis from either Ragozin or Thorograph but this seems like a much better deal.
Thanks in advance.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby BigDonOKC » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:23 pm

stark wrote:
BigDonOKC wrote:
WILL POST NEXT WEEKS RACES EXCEL BEFORE THE RACE IF YOU WILL POST YOUR PICKS ALSO.


My picks?
They'll be the same as yours, duh!
I used to pay $25 for analysis from either Ragozin or Thorograph but this seems like a much better deal.
Thanks in advance.




I have never bought a tip sheet because I don't need help losing my own money you should do the same, you might be surprise how good you might do. Look at several things real speed, given up ground and moving to wire. If a person does not ask why are how he learn nothing. the race last week end why did the #6 run behind the #4 it simple he has given up ground in 30% of his race and #4 has not. the other factor was the time off was a big factor.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby stark » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:10 pm

BigDonOKC wrote:I have never bought a tip sheet because I don't need help losing my own money you should do the same,


I don't do tune-ups on my car.....can't be all that hard.
I don't repair my computer.....can't be all that hard.
I don't fix plumbing problems in my house.....can't be all that hard.
I'm willing to pay for expertise.

Why shouldn't I rely on somebody else's expertise when it comes to handicapping horse races?
There are guys out there, Jerry Brown at Thorograph, Jonathan Hardoon at Ragozin Sheets or Bruno deJulio doing the workouts reports, all of these guys live horse racing 7x24, they should be better than me doing it part time.
$25 seems like a cheap bargain for daily info imho. Even a guy like Andy Serling at NYRA who doesn't charge for his picks but is dedicated 60 hours a week to one circuit knows more about New York racing than I'll ever know. I will draw the line at TVG experts, not sure they are too good?

And now I've found a guy who measures feet per second in an excel spreadsheet, what's not to like?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby Curtis » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:22 pm

I’ve always thrown darts at the Racing Form. Then along came the iPad. That was an expensive fix.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby stark » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:30 pm

Curtis wrote:I’ve always thrown darts at the Racing Form. Then along came the iPad. That was an expensive fix.


Life was so simple when all you had to do was look for the X with a circle around it on a rainy day!
Change happens. But thanks to guys like L̶e̶s̶t̶e̶r̶ BigDon we're gonna get thru this.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby BigDonOKC » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:09 pm

stark wrote:
Curtis wrote:I’ve always thrown darts at the Racing Form. Then along came the iPad. That was an expensive fix.


Life was so simple when all you had to do was look for the X with a circle around it on a rainy day!
Change happens. But thanks to guys like L̶e̶s̶t̶e̶r̶ BigDon we're gonna get thru this.



So you are telling me you would pay $25.00 on each race I predict? TOTAL $75.00 NEXT WEEK END :roll:

here why I do not charge we all know that tip sheet give you 4 horses and if one come in they claim it as a winner I do not I will only call it as a winner if it is on top of my list. I have played straight tickets the 2016 derby was one of them. I do not like to have some one take what I say and bet their money on it if they can open the door of their house and throw their betting money to the wind. Not one person has ask why I thought the 4 would best the 6 even though I believe I have all ready covered it. :shock:
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