Derby Point Races 2018

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby Ballerina » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:25 pm

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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby stark » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:30 pm

Just because you have enough points doesn't mean you have to run. Is there anybody yet that's hinted they might not be ready for the 1 1/4 grind? There is no doubt in my mind that somebody will spike a fever a week out, so the bubble horses need to stay tuned.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby BigDonOKC » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:48 pm

play for the weekend
9th race keeneland
Ex 12 / 6 straight straight $2,00

11th Oaklawn park
ex, $10.00 straight 6-5
tri $10.00 straight 6-5-9
super $2.00 straight 6-5-9-8
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby stark » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:51 pm

BigDonOKC wrote:10th Oakland
ex, $10.00 straight 3-7
tri $10.00 straight 3-7-10
super $4.00 straight 3-7-10-4


Golden Gate?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby Spahny » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:02 pm

stark wrote:
BigDonOKC wrote:10th Oakland
ex, $10.00 straight 3-7
tri $10.00 straight 3-7-10
super $4.00 straight 3-7-10-4


Golden Gate?


Oaklawn.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby BigDonOKC » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:43 pm

Spahny wrote:
stark wrote:
BigDonOKC wrote:10th Oakland
ex, $10.00 straight 3-7
tri $10.00 straight 3-7-10
super $4.00 straight 3-7-10-4


Golden Gate?


Oaklawn.

sorry been driven in that smoke- we got one hell of a fire here in oklahoma and 37104 is wrong 6598 is right
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:09 pm

TVG just went over the Derby points list and also relayed some very recent news that Sunland Derby winner Runaway Ghost was just diagnosed with a hairline fracture and will probably miss the Derby. That puts Combatant into the field.
FOUR Scat Daddy's will be running for the Roses.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby stark » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:15 pm

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Winning Beyer Speed Figures from the final two Ky Derby preps yesterday:

Magnum Moon, Arkansas Derby, 98

My Boy Jack, Lexington, 90
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby Ballerina » Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:09 pm

Updated BSF's, and yes, I know, some of you don't pay attention to them.

http://www1.drf.com/drfLeaderBoard.do?category=beyer
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Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby Kennedy » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:19 am

Final

1. Audible (1)
2. Justify (2)
3. Mendelssohn (3)
4. Bolt D’Oro (4)
5. Vino Rosso (5)
6. Magnum Moon (6)
7. Good Magic (7)
8. Flameaway (8)
9. My Boy Jack (10)
10. Quip (9)

On the Radar: Combatant

Basically no changes from my ranking last week except to switch My Boy Jack and Quip. Quip ran well enough in a race where he was clearly not as good as the winner but also the winner controlled the pace to such an extent that it was always going to prove to be impossible to pass him. I like that Quip held off the rest of them and showed good tenacity but I he’s a bit behind the top ones from this crop at talent level.

My Boy Jack is a kind of blue collar horse that I actually really like. I still think he needs the right kind of setup and likely some off going to make up the differential of talent between he and the top horses. I think he’s a bit of a hanger along with being a closer. Some might be down on his Lexington but I actually saw that as a race that was hard to win from off the pace and was somewhat impressed that he got it done.
Magnum Moon was the best horse in the Arkansas Derby but I am still a bit skeptical of his chances because of the space I would expect him to occupy. The Ark Derby was a really easy race all things considered and he was allowed to settle, slow down and then just completely outclass his rivals. It’s not bad for a prep but this didn’t show anything really about his ability. My concern from a Derby perspective is that he is likely to be targeting the “pressing” space which is generally crowded. He’ll have traffic concerns potentially but he’ll also be chasing Justify. Not sure if he has enough to run that one down.

I continue not to be impressed with Solomini but I would actually be open to using him on the bottom of tickets. He always finds a way to make it into the mix. My concern is that he’s not that good and he’s not improving. He might also have a passing issue.

A horse I would definitely want to consider in some way if he drew in is Combatant. If you like comparison plays this horse is basically Giacomo. The right setup in the Derby could play into his hands but I think he’d need a sharp pace.
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