Derby Point Races 2018

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby Treve » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:19 pm

Stark, three horses will carry 122lb, Beautiful Shot, Magnum Moon and Quip. The others will carry 118lb. I guess that means that of all the prep winners, Mendelssohn will have carried the most weight (126lb in the UAE Derby)

I think Magnum Moon is a glorious specimen, and before the SA Derby if I had to pick one of the horses running against Apollo's curse, I liked him better than Justify for some of the reasons listed above.
The Arkansas Derby has become my favourite Derby prep in recent years and I'll be interested in seeing in particular how Solomini, MM and Combatant do. I think Magnum Moon could lose and still move forward. I think we might see a new Era in the Pletcher barn when he aims at having his horses peak on Derby day, more than for preps.
I'm also curious about Quip as I've not looked into him at all but I'm seeing him on a lot of Derby lists.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
User avatar
Treve
 
Posts: 3379
Joined: Fri May 08, 2015 5:12 pm

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby katmandu » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:52 pm

Here's Quip galloping the same morning that MMM did:

https://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/quip ... 11th-2018/
katmandu
 
Posts: 813
Joined: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:16 am

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby BigDonOKC » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:14 pm

with the last 2 point races out i see my boy jack winning the 9 race at keeneland he get 20 and get in where greyvitos would only have 30 if he won and it is possible he could not get in. more later in the week. 8-)
BigDonOKC
 
Posts: 206
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:11 am

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby Horsebagger » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:00 am

BigDonOKC wrote:with the last 2 point races out i see my boy jack winning the 9 race at keeneland he get 20 and get in where greyvitos would only have 30 if he won and it is possible he could not get in. more later in the week. 8-)


So, the Greyvitos camp rushed their colt back to the Derby path so they can be what, 3-1 in a race they HAVE to win to even be a 'maybe' for the gate at Churchill?

I've liked this colt for a while (having an indirect interest in his success notwithstanding) but not thrilled with the chosen path that may ultimately suppress his overall career success. Good luck to the animal and i hope he can overcome his connections decisions.
Horsebagger
 
Posts: 1871
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:20 pm

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby hadrianmarcus » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:06 am

Greyvitos is being pointed toward the Preakness, not the Derby, from what I've read.
hadrianmarcus
 
Posts: 209
Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:28 pm

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby stark » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:44 am

ARCADIA, Calif. - The two-time stakes winner Greyvitos will have his 2018 debut in Saturday’s Grade 3 Lexington Stakes at Keeneland, trainer Adam Kitchingman said Sunday.

Last week, Kitchingman considered starting Greyvitos in the Grade 1 Arkansas Derby at 1 1/8 miles at Oaklawn Park on Saturday, but has opted for the $200,000 Lexington Stakes, which is run at 1 1/16 miles.

“I’ll go in the softer spot and the shorter distance,” he said. “It’s been weighing on my mind pretty heavy in the last few days.”

The decision could keep Greyvitos from gaining sufficient qualifying points to earn a berth in the Kentucky Derby at Churchill Downs on May 5.

Through Sunday, Greyvitos had 10 qualifying points and was tied for 32nd in the rankings. The winner of the Lexington Stakes will receive 20 qualifying points. Even if Greyvitos wins the Lexington Stakes and has 30 points, the colt would not be certain of a berth in a race with a safety limit of 20 starters.

“The Preakness will be our back-up plan,” Kitchingham said.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
stark
 
Posts: 3172
Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:55 am
Location: SoCal

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby Horsebagger » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:38 am

hadrianmarcus wrote:Greyvitos is being pointed toward the Preakness, not the Derby, from what I've read.


Likely an uninformed suggestion.

If/when he wins on Saturday, and he's eligible to make the gate and healthy, and then the connection decline the opportunity, I'll be back to concede and apologize to the connections for finally doing the right thing.

Not holding my breath.
Horsebagger
 
Posts: 1871
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:20 pm

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby Somnambulist » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:52 am

The Lexington was much better so close to the Derby. I like desperation to be much more... desperate.
"Life's no piece of cake, mind you, but the recipe's my own to fool with."
Somnambulist
 
Posts: 7067
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:59 pm

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby Treve » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:34 pm

"The Preakness will be our back-up plan."

In twitter parlance, "I was shook" when I saw that both My Boy Jack and Greyvitos were entered in the Lexington. The latter has been working since February, and they didn't think it might be an idea to enter him in an allowance or something to get a race in him? Fortunately they chose the 'softer' spot.

Derby fever can be so ugly sometimes.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
User avatar
Treve
 
Posts: 3379
Joined: Fri May 08, 2015 5:12 pm

Re: Derby Point Races 2018

Postby BigDonOKC » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:47 am

Treve wrote:"The Preakness will be our back-up plan."

In twitter parlance, "I was shook" when I saw that both My Boy Jack and Greyvitos were entered in the Lexington. The latter has been working since February, and they didn't think it might be an idea to enter him in an allowance or something to get a race in him? Fortunately they chose the 'softer' spot.

Derby fever can be so ugly sometimes.

:D I am glad my Boy Jack is in he the only one in this race who could get point and get in.
BigDonOKC
 
Posts: 206
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:11 am

PreviousNext

Return to Racing

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 9 guests