Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

Re: Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

Postby stark » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:09 pm

SSilence86 wrote:Delaware Park has issued a statement...
https://twitter.com/DelParkRacing/statu ... 96768?s=19


I know some people have difficulty accessing twitter links, so here it is....

DTRC advised @DelParkRacing that Stewards completed thorough investigation
of gate incident before 5th race 6/14 & no disciplinary action will be
taken against ast str. Based upon this determination, ast str, who has
been on suspension since, will be allowed to return to post


The on-line comments so far are approximately 117-0 against the ruling.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

Postby stark » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:11 pm

Prominent owner Charles Fipke has been ordered by the California Horse Racing Board to pay jockey Joel Rosario $110,000 as a result of a situation that developed last fall when Rosario was given the call to ride Forever Unbridled in the Breeders’ Cup Distaff at Del Mar, but was replaced days before the race by John Velazquez.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Re: Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

Postby WarBiscuit » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:21 pm

SSilence86 wrote:Delaware Park has issued a statement...


https://twitter.com/DelParkRacing/statu ... 96768?s=19


So, in other words, moving forward, it's OK to do that. Judging from the social media uproar, Delaware Park didn't make any new friends today. Not the best PR job I've seen...

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Re: Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:41 pm

IIRC, the owner of the horse was of the opinion that the starter should not lose his job.
The owner's opinion carries more weight for me than 117 anonymous tweeters.
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Re: Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

Postby WarBiscuit » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:00 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:IIRC, the owner of the horse was of the opinion that the starter should not lose his job.
The owner's opinion carries more weight for me than 117 anonymous tweeters.


Well, that was the opinion that the owner finally settled on. Perhaps a bit of softening up, or arm twisting on the part of DP to prevent the eye from turning black? Nah, that would never happen in horse racing... :shock:

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Re: Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

Postby The Doctors Saint » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:08 am

When this happened to this horse and it got all the attention online. I took the time to watch all Accolade's previous starts. The horse under Cristophe Clemente was fine in the gate. as a matter of fact I was quite touched at how the starter in his first race at Belmont was so gentle and reassuring with him in the gate. Accolade was claimed on 03/23 this year from Cheyenne stables and new trainer became Abel Castellano, owner Glenn Fagan. Accolade has been ridden by Daniel Centeno both times he had trouble in the gate; the second time was when the asst. starter did what he did (I also watched that several times slowed down to 1/4 speed).
I don't go to the track; I've never bet on a horse. But I have two of these that I've had the pleasure to know for many years now and they have shown me how crazy smart and scary athletic and very forgiving they can be at times. I hope whatever the future holds for Accolade is something that he can be good at where he doesn't get banged in the head for being afraid.
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Re: Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

Postby Treve » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:25 am

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:IIRC, the owner of the horse was of the opinion that the starter should not lose his job.
The owner's opinion carries more weight for me than 117 anonymous tweeters.


You can take disciplinary action without firing someone, though.
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Re: Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

Postby BaroqueAgain1 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:09 am

He has been on suspension until now, so I guess you could call that a bit of 'disciplinary action.' :?
I also hope that looking back at what happened will have caused the man to reflect on his actions...and endeavor to never lose his cool again.
I'd guess that the stewards have warned him that if he ever does something like that again, they won't be as forgiving as they were this time.
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Re: Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

Postby katmandu » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:58 pm

Thank you Mr. Hovdey (who is married to a high profile ex-jockey) for adding an informed and enlightened voice to this topic:

http://www.drf.com/news/hovdey-starting ... red-scream

"You’ve got to use a little finesse and horsemanship to get by now" (veteran California starter Gary Brinson)
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Re: Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

Postby MySaladDays » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:24 am

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:IIRC, the owner of the horse was of the opinion that the starter should not lose his job.
The owner's opinion carries more weight for me than 117 anonymous tweeters.


not for me.

sounds like these people don't know where the line needs to be drawn.

I don't care if the Pope thinks it's okay.
Punching a horse in the face 4 times, (esp. AFTER the horse has settled) is unconscionable from an ethical standpoint for me.

I was sickened by what I saw.

you could be doing a great job most of your life and then the stress gets to you, age gets to you......the starter needs to not be working with live animals anymore, and probably could use some psychiatric evaluation.

Its like the spouse who suddenly "loses it" one day and beats on the other spouse. That is a warning flag. Something changed.
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