Jockey/Trainer News - 2018

BaroqueAgain1
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:37 pm

Thanks for the details, guys, even if was really upsetting to read.
Wonder what the head starter said to him after that? :?
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:49 pm

I don't know if he/she even knew. I'm wondering if a lot of people saw it on the feed an reported it to the track.
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:54 pm

Somnambulist wrote:I don't know if he/she even knew. I'm wondering if a lot of people saw it on the feed an reported it to the track.

This is Delaware's response...
https://twitter.com/DelParkRacing/statu ... 50309?s=19

I think he reported it...
https://twitter.com/brooklyncowboy1/sta ... 56228?s=19
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:58 pm

The comments on how tracks are "notorious" for defending the gate crew in the past have me wondering what else has happened?
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:01 am

Somnambulist wrote:The comments on how tracks are "notorious" for defending the gate crew in the past have me wondering what else has happened?

Someone in the comments mentioned that something similar to this happened at Churchill today.
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:19 am

I understand that being inside a gate stall with an angry/frightened half-ton prey animal is hella dangerous. There is a very real chance that a horse can injure an assistant starter by swinging its head around sharply. I wouldn't be shocked to hear that the horse had already whacked the starter, which might explain his way-angry reaction. :?
BUT...you can't just go around punching a horse's head/nose, no matter how angry/bruised you are. You don't get to discipline/punish that animal. It's not your horse and it's not the job you signed on for.
Besides, beyond being cruel, it could have made the situation worse. More pain and/or fright could really make things go very far south inside that stall. :shock:
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:34 am

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I understand that being inside a gate stall with an angry/frightened half-ton prey animal is hella dangerous. There is a very real chance that a horse can injure an assistant starter by swinging its head around sharply. I wouldn't be shocked to hear that the horse had already whacked the starter, which might explain his way-angry reaction. :?
BUT...you can't just go around punching a horse's head/nose, no matter how angry/bruised you are. You don't get to discipline/punish that animal. It's not your horse and it's not the job you signed on for.
Besides, beyond being cruel, it could have made the situation worse. More pain and/or fright could really makes things go very far south inside that stall. :shock:
Yeah, that was my take -- he lost it, but he had been stung badly. People do stupid things when they're hurt. But unprofessonal and probably better off in a different job.
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:06 am

Just watched it again the horse didn't hit the assistant starter at all actually, not with his head or neck or anything. Might have scared him when he pulled his head downwards (the assistant was still holding on to the reins at that point so the horse semi-pulled him down but he didn't fall nor make contact with the horse's head/neck).
Probably one of the most angering parts is that when the horse lifted his head back up, he stilled himself and didn't keep acting up. So AFTER the horse has started to calm down is when the guy decides to hit him (5 times by my count this time)?? He didn't have the excuse of being hurt - maybe upset/irritated/impatient/scared, but looks to me like he's either in the wrong line of work or in need of anger management issues because the word 'overreaction' would be an understatement.
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BaroqueAgain1
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:25 am

If the starter actually hit the horse after it stood still, I can't even imagine how furious the trainer is. The crewman punished the horse for doing the right thing?
Now the trainer has to undo all the harm that starter did with a young horse who is likely going to fear the gate more than it already did. And it is probably confused about what is expected of him/her.
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:30 am

Marlon St. Julien told Hovdey he was just drifting off to sleep after watching the Belmont coverage when he heard Smith mention his name to NBC's Donna Barton Brothers.

St. Julien called Smith the next day to thank him, telling his fellow jockey he had struggled to remain positive during parts of his recovery from a serious fall at Prairie Meadows. Smith's thoughtful dedication at such an impactful moment gave St. Julien the encouragement he needed at just the right time.
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:59 am

Pretty sure that if we only had a national racing commissioner they would opt for the European style and get those assistant guys out of the gate completely, problem solved going forward.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:24 pm

Craig Brogden@craigbrogden
27m27 minutes ago
Craig Brogden Retweeted TAB Racing
This Is absolutely incredible

@TAB_Racing
One of the most extraordinary wins you will ever see on a racetrack. Jockey @AaronKuru comes off his horse, Des De Jeu, at the first jump only to remount and go and win!
Video: https://twitter.com/TAB_Racing/status/1 ... 4990548992
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:49 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote:Craig Brogden@craigbrogden
27m27 minutes ago
Craig Brogden Retweeted TAB Racing
This Is absolutely incredible

@TAB_Racing
One of the most extraordinary wins you will ever see on a racetrack. Jockey @AaronKuru comes off his horse, Des De Jeu, at the first jump only to remount and go and win!
Video: https://twitter.com/TAB_Racing/status/1 ... 4990548992
Michael Guerin @GuerinSports
For those stunned by that Aaron Kuru “Houdini” on his way to winning the steeplechase at Awapuni today here are some more angles including an amazing head-on. Remarkable stuff
Video: https://twitter.com/GuerinSports/status ... 7450338304
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:54 pm

Near the end of this brief Paulick article about the starter beating the horse at Delaware is a statement from the owner of Accolade....a VERY unhappy owner. :shock:
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/the- ... ing-horse/
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:00 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote:
Sparrow Castle wrote:Craig Brogden@craigbrogden
27m27 minutes ago
Craig Brogden Retweeted TAB Racing
This Is absolutely incredible

@TAB_Racing
One of the most extraordinary wins you will ever see on a racetrack. Jockey @AaronKuru comes off his horse, Des De Jeu, at the first jump only to remount and go and win!
Video: https://twitter.com/TAB_Racing/status/1 ... 4990548992
Michael Guerin @GuerinSports
For those stunned by that Aaron Kuru “Houdini” on his way to winning the steeplechase at Awapuni today here are some more angles including an amazing head-on. Remarkable stuff
Video: https://twitter.com/GuerinSports/status ... 7450338304
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Replying to @WHR
Stewards report on Aaron Kuru
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:15 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Near the end of this brief Paulick article about the starter beating the horse at Delaware is a statement from the owner of Accolade....a VERY unhappy owner. :shock:
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/the- ... ing-horse/
And rightfully livid. I'd feel the same way if it had been one of my horses. No excuse for Delaware Park officials not to reach out to the owner to apologize for the mistreatment of their horse by their employee and maybe offer some recompense, even if only a free food voucher. You'd never know this business depends on having lots of owners.
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:27 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Near the end of this brief Paulick article about the starter beating the horse at Delaware is a statement from the owner of Accolade....a VERY unhappy owner. :shock:
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/the- ... ing-horse/
This is bad business on the part of Delaware Park all the way around. Can't understand how you expect to calm a horse down by repeatedly bashing him in the head. If I had placed a wager on that horse, and then watched him being cold cocked in the gate by some idiot I'd be mighty upset. But that is secondary, as the blatant abuse of the animal is what is infuriating. Owner sounds like a decent guy, and I'm glad that he spoke up. DP needs to make an example of this asst. starter and fire him, and Mr. Fagan may wish to take his horse home...

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Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:34 pm

Curious......do assistant gate starters have union representation?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Treve
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:20 pm

I'm glad he got suspended but yikes @ Delaware not reaching out. But it is good to see owners advocating for the well-being of their horses.
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