Older Horses - 2018

Point Given
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Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:40 pm

Flanders wrote:Where are Always Dreaming and Cloud Computing? Neither has posted a workout in the past 60 days and both their last races were around Kentucky Derby time. Seeing Tapwrit yesterday reminded me that all 3 winners of the 2017 Triple Crown races were still in training(maybe). Unfortunately none of them has managed a win since then.
Ankle Chip Sidelines 2017 Preakness Winner Cloud Computing
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/thor ... computing/

Not sure about Always Dreaming..
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Flanders
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Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:43 pm

Point Given wrote:
Flanders wrote:Where are Always Dreaming and Cloud Computing? Neither has posted a workout in the past 60 days and both their last races were around Kentucky Derby time. Seeing Tapwrit yesterday reminded me that all 3 winners of the 2017 Triple Crown races were still in training(maybe). Unfortunately none of them has managed a win since then.
Ankle Chip Sidelines 2017 Preakness Winner Cloud Computing
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/thor ... computing/

Not sure about Always Dreaming..
Thank you!
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Starine
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:55 pm

From the DRF:
Trainer Kiaran McLaughlin said that Takaful, the winner of last year’s Grade 1 Vosburgh, was euthanized earlier this year due to an injury suffered following routine surgery. McLaughlin said Takaful underwent surgery on a hock, and when he tried to get up in recovery, he took a bad step and suffered a fracture that proved fatal.
http://www.drf.com/news/enticed-getting ... euthanized
BaroqueAgain1
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:00 pm

I wonder if a recovery pool could have prevented that fracture? I know that not many vet hospitals have those pools but, when I read of an incident like this, I wish more did. :(
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:59 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I wonder if a recovery pool could have prevented that fracture? I know that not many vet hospitals have those pools but, when I read of an incident like this, I wish more did. :(
As do I. But it's my understanding that the recovery pool isn't used that often even for surgeries at e.g. New Bolton. Too much of an additional expense maybe?
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Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:32 am

Gunnevera Fires Bullet in Preparation for Return

Multiple graded stakes winner Gunnevera, sidelined since his run in the March 31 Dubai World Cup Sponsored by Emirates Airline (G1), breezed five furlongs in 1:00 at Gulfstream Park West July 14 in preparation for a return at Gulfstream Park.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... for-return
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Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:19 pm

‘Rock Solid’ Accelerate Preparing To Defend His Title In San Diego Handicap
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/thor ... -handicap/
Point Given
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Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:26 pm

American Anthem (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: July 18, 2018
Track: DEL MAR
Distance: Six Furlongs
Time: 1.12:40 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 2/7
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Treve
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Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:02 am

Catalina wrote:
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I wonder if a recovery pool could have prevented that fracture? I know that not many vet hospitals have those pools but, when I read of an incident like this, I wish more did. :(
As do I. But it's my understanding that the recovery pool isn't used that often even for surgeries at e.g. New Bolton. Too much of an additional expense maybe?
I don't think a recovery pool would've prevented it in this case, it sounds like he was just trying to get up - the recovery pool mostly just prevents the horse from thrashing and hurting themselves if they panic. Result probably would've been the same once he got out of the pool and tried getting up, if he were to take a bad step.

Very sad though, RIP Takaful :(
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:06 pm

C Z Rocket (4-Year-Old Colt)
Date: July 19, 2018
Track: SARATOGA
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 49:76 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 5/11
katmandu
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Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:51 pm

Treve wrote:
Catalina wrote:
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I wonder if a recovery pool could have prevented that fracture? I know that not many vet hospitals have those pools but, when I read of an incident like this, I wish more did. :(
As do I. But it's my understanding that the recovery pool isn't used that often even for surgeries at e.g. New Bolton. Too much of an additional expense maybe?
I don't think a recovery pool would've prevented it in this case, it sounds like he was just trying to get up - the recovery pool mostly just prevents the horse from thrashing and hurting themselves if they panic. Result probably would've been the same once he got out of the pool and tried getting up, if he were to take a bad step.

Very sad though, RIP Takaful :(
At New Bolton, at least, horses taken out of the recovery pool are transferred via sling to a recovery stall where they are maintained in a sling "on their feet". The sling is removed as the horse displays the ability to stand on his own. They may be sedated at this stage, but it is "standing sedation".

https://www.vet.upenn.edu/about/press-r ... very-story
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Treve
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Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:49 pm

You can sling them regardless of pool recovery though.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
katmandu
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Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:40 pm

Treve wrote:I don't think a recovery pool would've prevented it in this case, it sounds like he was just trying to get up - the recovery pool mostly just prevents the horse from thrashing and hurting themselves if they panic. Result probably would've been the same once he got out of the pool and tried getting up, if he were to take a bad step.

Very sad though, RIP Takaful :(

It might have been a standing operation and he fell and subsequently injured himself as he came out of sedation. He didn't seem like a particularly docile horse. . . .

Yes, RIP, Takaful. You were brilliant.
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Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:30 pm

katmandu wrote:
Treve wrote:I don't think a recovery pool would've prevented it in this case, it sounds like he was just trying to get up - the recovery pool mostly just prevents the horse from thrashing and hurting themselves if they panic. Result probably would've been the same once he got out of the pool and tried getting up, if he were to take a bad step.

Very sad though, RIP Takaful :(

It might have been a standing operation and he fell and subsequently injured himself as he came out of sedation. He didn't seem like a particularly docile horse. . . .

Yes, RIP, Takaful. You were brilliant.
Definitely. I was mostly responding to the wording here from the article:
[...]And when he tried to get up in recovery, he took a bad step and suffered a fracture that proved fatal.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:04 pm

Accelerate Could Run in Whitney or Pacific Classic Next
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... assic-next
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Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:27 pm

Accelerate works 5f, still on target for Pacific Classic, Catalina Cruiser likely for Awesome Again, all per Sadler

Accelerate will be the likely representative from the John Sadler barn in the Pacific Classic, the trainer said Sunday morning, a bit after Accelerate worked five furlongs in 59.60 seconds and the morning after stablemate Catalina Cruiser romped in the San Diego.

Sadler said that having pondered the situation overnight, he thought running Catalina Cruiser 1 1/4 miles in the Pacific Classic in his fourth start might be a bit much, so he was inclined to wait with him for something later this summer or fall -- perhaps the 1 1/8-mile Awesome Again at Santa Anita -- and keep Accelerate on target for the Pacific Classic, rather than send him to Saratoga for the Whitney.

Sadler said his long-term goals for the two are to get Accelerate to the Breeders' Cup Classic and look at the Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile for Catalina Cruiser.

Accelerate, 5, is expected to be retired at year's end, while Catalina Cruiser, 4, is expected to race next year at age 5.

http://live.drf.com/nuggets/43874-accel ... per-sadler
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
BaroqueAgain1
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Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:34 pm

Army Mule, the lightly-raced Friesian Fire ridgling who won the G1 Carter back in April, is finally back in Pletcher's barn. He won the Carter by 6 1/2 lengths, earning a 114 Beyer, and seemed headed for the Met Mile. Then he was sent off for a 'freshening' vacation.
https://www.paulickreport.com/news/bree ... n-horizon/

It will be interesting to see if he ends up as a miler or adds to our Classic division, which could use some new bodies.
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Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:46 pm

I was surprised and not happy to read that Masochistic is back in light training. The eight-year-old was retired last March, and I figured the gelding would be enjoying a well-earned retirement.
Then I read the article...it turns out Masochistic had a different opinion about that whole 'retirement' thing. :o

Grade 1 winner Masochistic, the gelding who was at the center of multiple controversies during his five seasons of racing and was retired in March, has returned to light training at Del Mar for a simple reason.
He can't stand being turned out and, when they tried to make him a trail horse—look out.
"He's gained a ton of weight. He's like a pony right now," said new trainer Kristin Mulhall, who has cared for Masochistic since his retirement. "When you get on his back, it's a different story. He does not enjoy just being turned out. He does not enjoy being a pet. He did not enjoy not doing anything, basically. He's not going to be a trail horse unless you plan on match racing."
So with limited options for his post-racing career because of his attitude, owner Will Shamlian and Mulhall sent Masochistic back to the racetrack. First they attempted to make him a stable pony, but he wasn't having that, either.
"He just wants to go," Mulhall said. "And I've worked with a lot of off-track Thoroughbreds, and I've never experienced one quite like him."

Read more: https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... t-training

So....What do you do with a sound horse who is too competitive to be a trail horse or stable pony? And who gets really unhappy standing out in a field and is too cranky to be a pet? :(
Would he be a candidate for turn-out with a batch of weanlings or yearlings? Racing around with a bunch of fast, energetic youngsters might drain that run-fast energy a bit. ;)
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Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:26 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:46 pm
I was surprised and not happy to read that Masochistic is back in light training. The eight-year-old was retired last March, and I figured the gelding would be enjoying a well-earned retirement.
Then I read the article...it turns out Masochistic had a different opinion about that whole 'retirement' thing. :o

Grade 1 winner Masochistic, the gelding who was at the center of multiple controversies during his five seasons of racing and was retired in March, has returned to light training at Del Mar for a simple reason.
He can't stand being turned out and, when they tried to make him a trail horse—look out.
"He's gained a ton of weight. He's like a pony right now," said new trainer Kristin Mulhall, who has cared for Masochistic since his retirement. "When you get on his back, it's a different story. He does not enjoy just being turned out. He does not enjoy being a pet. He did not enjoy not doing anything, basically. He's not going to be a trail horse unless you plan on match racing."
So with limited options for his post-racing career because of his attitude, owner Will Shamlian and Mulhall sent Masochistic back to the racetrack. First they attempted to make him a stable pony, but he wasn't having that, either.
"He just wants to go," Mulhall said. "And I've worked with a lot of off-track Thoroughbreds, and I've never experienced one quite like him."

Read more: https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... t-training

So....What do you do with a sound horse who is too competitive to be a trail horse or stable pony? And who gets really unhappy standing out in a field and is too cranky to be a pet? :(
Would he be a candidate for turn-out with a batch of weanlings or yearlings? Racing around with a bunch of fast, energetic youngsters might drain that run-fast energy a bit. ;)
At first I was shocked - but speaking to the folks who are with him - I understand - Kristin is wonderful in caring for horses - I believe she has his best intersts at heart - that said I hope he is kept OUT ot competition
May they run with the WIND
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Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:56 pm

Doug O'Neil's favorite stable pony (and favorite retired G1 racehorse), Lava Man, is recovering well from his colic and surgery for a twisted intestine. :D
“He's going after his feed real well, the clinic is very happy with him, and so if they're happy, we're happy,” O'Neill said. “He looks shiny and healthy. A lot of times, even in these short periods of time, they'll drop off, but he does look like he's kept his muscle. Seventeen years old and he's (still) a warrior.”
Read more: https://www.paulickreport.com/horse-car ... sing-well/
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