Fire at San Luis Rey!?

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Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:14 pm

Retrospectiv wrote:Poor Conquest Typhoon :(
Veterinarian/owner Korin Potenza feeds a banana to Conquest Typhoon, a horse trained by Peter Miller, at the San Luis Rey Equine Hospital. Conquest Typhoon was burned during the Lilac Fire at the San Luis Rey Training Center.
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I imagine they can also vary his diet (on top of the bananas, applesauce and bran mash soup) with other forms of 'soups' (alfalfa broth for example) to make sure he gets a diversity of nutrients and sufficient calories until he's able to eat solids again. Wishing him a speedy recovery, he seems like quite a trooper.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:53 pm

The injuries suffered by some of these horses likely will take quite awhile to heal, and hopefully they do heal well. Then there's the question about whether or not they can race again. Seeing the extent of the burns on Conquest Typhoon, I can't imagine when and if he could even tolerate wearing a bridle and bit again. Paulick published an interesting story a few days ago about the delayed onset and more hidden aspects related to that.

San Luis Rey Fire Survivors: What Trainers Should Be Looking For
Over the years, fires involving horses have made the news, but none has been as horrifying as the one on Dec. 7, when California's Santa Ana winds swept a wildfire through San Luis Rey Downs in Bonsall. Forty-six racehorses died in the blaze, despite the efforts of heroic horsemen who freed hundreds of Thoroughbreds from their burning barns.

Two major threats to horses in a fire are burn wounds and lung damage from heat and smoke inhalation. For competitive athletes, like the ones who survived the San Luis Rey fire, damage to their lungs may be career-ending. Even those that escape the inferno unhurt may suffer from equine post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) that could psychologically affect their ability to race.

Now for the good news: with the excellent veterinary care available today, the prognosis for horses surviving a fire is better than ever.
More: https://www.paulickreport.com/horse-car ... s-looking/
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:10 am

i'm glad he's eating, period. that's a good sign, i think, that he has an appetite.
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Sparrow Castle wrote:The injuries suffered by some of these horses likely will take quite awhile to heal, and hopefully they do heal well. Then there's the question about whether or not they can race again. Seeing the extent of the burns on Conquest Typhoon, I can't imagine when and if he could even tolerate wearing a bridle and bit again. Paulick published an interesting story a few days ago about the delayed onset and more hidden aspects related to that.
I thought about that too but I am just grateful he survived and seems eager to keep going. They'll cross that bridge when they get there I suppose, personally I'd retire him from racing, and if he healed well, perhaps retrain him for another career. He might be a good candidate for bitless forms of training (whether those are traditional bitless means like hackamores, bosals, bitless bridles or simply bridless). I was actually wondering if racing in a hackamore has ever been done? I know there is a grand prix show jumping rider who rides his young mare in a leather halter because she did not tolerate the bit very well and her performance was not great with it. She improved by leaps and bounds and was obviously happier and giving him more when he switched to riding her bitless.
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:48 am

Sparrow Castle wrote:The injuries suffered by some of these horses likely will take quite awhile to heal, and hopefully they do heal well. Then there's the question about whether or not they can race again. Seeing the extent of the burns on Conquest Typhoon, I can't imagine when and if he could even tolerate wearing a bridle and bit again. Paulick published an interesting story a few days ago about the delayed onset and more hidden aspects related to that.

San Luis Rey Fire Survivors: What Trainers Should Be Looking For
Over the years, fires involving horses have made the news, but none has been as horrifying as the one on Dec. 7, when California's Santa Ana winds swept a wildfire through San Luis Rey Downs in Bonsall. Forty-six racehorses died in the blaze, despite the efforts of heroic horsemen who freed hundreds of Thoroughbreds from their burning barns.

Two major threats to horses in a fire are burn wounds and lung damage from heat and smoke inhalation. For competitive athletes, like the ones who survived the San Luis Rey fire, damage to their lungs may be career-ending. Even those that escape the inferno unhurt may suffer from equine post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) that could psychologically affect their ability to race.

Now for the good news: with the excellent veterinary care available today, the prognosis for horses surviving a fire is better than ever.
More: https://www.paulickreport.com/horse-car ... s-looking/
Outstanding, long article, several pages of great insight and information, well worth reading. Prayers that Conquest Typhoon and all the others can overcome their burns and other injuries, and the terrible memory of that day.
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:59 pm

On a related note, a few hours up the coast in Santa Barbara, the states 3rd largest fire of all time is still raging.

Santa Barbara Zoo prepares to evacuate over Thomas Fire

Interesting tweet...."We DO NOT need public assistance. Do not come to the Zoo. Stay safe," the Zoo tweeted.

http://www.keyt.com/news/santa-barbara- ... /674022543
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:01 pm

stark wrote:
Ziggypop wrote: I was completely taken aback how nothing bad been done to clean up even the most obvious problems. Appalling how horses are still suffering because of the lack of courage.
Not sure what you're getting at.......is it like a Shamu/PETA.....Elephants/RinglingBros thing for you, shut'em down?
Like the Silent Ruler trainer.
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:06 pm

stark wrote:Santa Barbara Zoo prepares to evacuate over Thomas Fire
The fires have been devastating to human and animals alike. Wildlife, of course, does not have human caregivers so untold numbers of wild creatures are killed or displaced in such massive fires.

What makes it all the more painful is the fact that the National Fish and Wildlife Service says that about 90% of all wild land fires are caused by humans, sometimes through accident or negligence, and sometimes through deliberate arson.
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:38 pm

Story and some views of the funeral procession for Cory Iverson on the Ventura Freeway. People are crowding the overpasses to pay their respects to Chino firefighter Cory Iverson who lost his life fighting the Thomas Fire.

http://www.pe.com/2017/12/17/see-parts- ... refighter/

So many good people out there. If you want to have faith in the human race restored sometimes it's times like these that give one that hope. I would not however recommend going to the Cal Fire update page and reading the comments if you want to feel good about your fellow citizens. I only hope most of the posts are coming from 5 or 6 very troubled individuals
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:03 pm

" ...would not however recommend going to the Cal Fire update page and reading the comments if you want to feel good about your fellow citizens."

What!? How could anyone find something negative to say about a firefighter who died doing the dangerous work of protecting us?
Nevermind. I know from experience that the world is full of disturbed, angry trolls, so I'll skip reading those comments.
My condolences to his young family. IIRC, his wife is expecting their 2nd child. :cry:
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:25 pm

stark wrote:On a related note, a few hours up the coast in Santa Barbara, the states 3rd largest fire of all time is still raging.

Santa Barbara Zoo prepares to evacuate over Thomas Fire

Interesting tweet...."We DO NOT need public assistance. Do not come to the Zoo. Stay safe," the Zoo tweeted.

http://www.keyt.com/news/santa-barbara- ... /674022543
The last thing they probably want is people with zero training or experience with wild animals running into the fire, attempting to help. Finding horse people in the LA area who are willing to help (my aunt, a rider, and her bf, a professional shipper, spent 24 hours straight hauling any horse they could get their hands on to safety when one of the top showjumping barns in the area burned down - http://www.chronofhorse.com/article/cal ... ying-farms ) maybe was not so difficult, but next to no one, besides zoo staff would know how to handle a zoo animal.
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Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:47 pm

Hovdey: Stronach delivers clarion wake-up call

It’s not every day that a racing company’s plans for the future are laid out in stark terms anyone can understand. More often than not, the public is delivered corporate platitudes and pies in the sky. Not so last Wednesday at Santa Anita, where track owner Frank Stronach and chief operating officer Tim Ritvo answered pointed questions from a group of owners and trainers concerning the future of California racing in the wake of the San Luis Rey Downs fire.

The Stronach Group owns San Luis Rey Downs, and since the closure of Hollywood Park in early 2014 it has been maintained as a popular facility used by the stables of some of California’s top trainers. Horses win running out of San Luis Rey, just as they win running out of training centers like Fair Hill, Payson Park, or Palm Meadows.

http://www.drf.com/news/hovdey-stronach ... -wake-call
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Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:55 pm

I most certainly hope that Stronach reconsiders. Having 2,500 thoroughbreds stabled at Santa Anita (or any other single place) is begging for trouble. You have any natural or man-made disaster, from infectious disease to fires, landslides, earthquakes, sinkholes, tsunamis, etc, do you really, really want to risk that large a percentage of the West Coast TBs in training? You would think the San Luis Rey fire would have taught them that it's better to have the shed-rows smaller and further apart than having huge blocks.
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Avicii on Tue. AM @OaklawnRacing for @DougONeill1. His 45th & final horse accounted for (all were safe) from 12/7 San Luis Rey Downs fire.
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San Luis Rey Victim Bellocq Has Long Road to Recovery
Pierre Bellocq, the husband of Martine Bellocq, said Tuesday that his wife has made slight improvement since being burned in the Dec. 7 fire at San Luis Rey Downs, but added that she had a long battle ahead of her.

“It’s going to be a very long healing process and a very long medical process, but she is out of critical care,” said Bellocq, who served as the co-trainer with his wife of a six-horse stable at San Luis Rey. “She is still in very serious condition. She has had some surgeries, about four of them already on the skin, and has many more to come. The progress is there, but it is very, very little. It’s going to take a long time. According to the heart monitor, she apparently can hear me when I talk to her now, but she can’t communicate at all yet. It’s going to take time, but the care at this hospital [the Burn Center at UC San Diego Health] is extraordinary. I do believe she will return to a normal life, but even the doctors don’t know if it is going to take six months or nine months or how long. It depends on how her burns heal.”

Bellocq described a harrowing and chaotic scene at San Luis Rey when the fire swept through the training center. He said his wife put the safety of the horses over her own as the two worked feverishly to get their horses out of harm’s way. Bellocq said he had rescued a horse and went to take it to the training track, and warned his wife not to go back in the barn.

“We had a very nice, unraced 2-year-old colt,” Bellocq said of a horse named Wild Bill Hickory (Many Rivers). “He was a beautiful specimen, starting to train on. He was sort of the star of the show, and unfortunately, he was in the worst possible spot when everything went to hell. She had tried first hosing down the stalls of the horses. Then it just exploded. She went in there to try to get him out to save him, and got as far as the shedrow, and the horse was just engulfed in flames and so was she, basically. She wouldn’t have done it any other way, outside of being physically dragged away and I was too late to do that when the barn just exploded.”

While noting his wife’s heroic act, he said he is more focused on the results of her decision to go in after the horse.

“It’s something that is perhaps frustrating, because I was trying to convince her not to put her life in danger,” he said. “I asked her not to go in there after I left with the horse and when I got back to the barn, I found her on the ground in the state she was in. Third-degree burns over 60% of her body. I would have much preferred that she didn’t get burned the way she did.”
More: http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/sa ... -recovery/
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:58 pm

An Evening of Music to Support the Victims of the Fire at San Luis Rey Downs Training Center
Featuring Burt Bacharach with a special guest performance by Elvis Costello

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https://www.dmtc.com/media/news/an-even ... f-the-1122
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:06 pm

Rick Gold‏ @SenorOro
Presale tickets sold out in minutes. Regular tickets on sale Friday. It’s amazing to see how the horse racing community has come together to support the victims of SLR. Much done, much to do.

Del Mar Racetrack‏Verified account @DelMarRacing
"The horrible circumstances around the San Luis Rey Downs fire cry out for aid in so many ways. This is my way of giving back to the horse community.“
An Evening with Burt Bacharach ft. Elvis Costello @BellyUpMusic goes on pre-sale today at 4PM
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:13 pm

One Year After Tragedy, Reed Regaining His Normalcy
Trainer recovering professionally, emotionally after fire at Mercury Equine Center.
On Dec. 18, trainer Eric Reed and his staff at Mercury Equine Center gathered and let the memory of what they wish never was wash over them once more.

They stood side by side as the tears came in honor of those lost, specifically the 23 Thoroughbreds who perished as a result of a devastating fire that hit Reed's training facility near Lexington 12 months before. Time can be a remarkable salve and in the year that has passed since every horseman's worst nightmare came to fruition, there is tangible evidence of recovery—the new barn they broke ground on a few weeks ago and the support of clients and friends, who made sure the veteran conditioner got back on his feet both professionally and emotionally.

There is no forgetting, though, nor should there be in the aftermath of such heartache. But while the pain is still present, so too is the healing that has dutifully come as a result...


..Remarkably, the tragedies at Mercury Equine Center and San Luis Rey managed to produce a joint ambassador for the remarkable level of hope that can emerge from the worst of circumstances.

Fuega, a dark bay Union Rags filly, was among those who survived the fire at Reed's facility—hence her moniker. In a can't-script-it twist of fate, the now 2-year-old Fuega was also stabled at San Luis Rey when that inferno happened and, again, managed to escape with no major injuries.
More: https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... s-normalcy
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Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:57 pm

Videos embedded in the article.

'It Was Just Bedlam': Horse Trainer Saves Prized Filly in Lilac Fire
Joe Herrick and Lovely Finish have visible scars from their near-death experience in the Lilac Fire
By Liberty Zabala and R. Stickney
A San Diego horse trainer ran through a wall of flames to rescue his prized filly as a wildfire raced through the barn earlier this month, killing six of his horses.

Arms still bandaged, Joe Herrick visited Lovely Finish in her stable Wednesday. Both have visible scars from their near-death experience in the Lilac Fire.

Flames swept across the North County on Dec. 7, destroying more than 100 homes and scorching 4,100 acres.

Herrick ran towards the flames at San Luis Rey Downs, a training center in Bonsall. He was desperate to save his horses including Lovely Finish.

In the incredible heat, Herrick’s horse trailer caught on fire. In a matter of seconds, the barn caught fire.

“It was just a like a hurricane of fire, wind and debris just blowing into the barn,” Herrick said, describing how the lower barns on the property were destroyed within 10 minutes.

“There were horses running wild, kicking each other,” he said. “It was just bedlam. It was crazy.”

Herrick jumped into action, running to get horses out of the barn. One suddenly ran right back into the barn to her death, he said.

As he went to move Lovely Finish, they were hit by flames.

“We had a big fireball hit us as we were trying to get out of the stall,” Herrick said.

When the horse pushed her way out of the stall, he did his best to hang on.

In the process, the two suffered serious burns from the intense heat. Herrick describes feeling as if his shirt and hair were melting.

Once outside the barn, despite the urging of emergency personnel, Herrick refused to leave the area until his prized filly was safe with his groom.

“I knew with my injuries I was going to be in trouble for a while,” he said.
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/ ... 76103.html
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Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:44 pm

HORSES LOST IN LILAC FIRE IDENTIFIED
http://www.chrb.ca.gov/press_releases/2 ... elease.pdf
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